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Preserved or Pickled?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Orvie, Aug 12, 2004.

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  1. Orvie

    Orvie New Member

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    We all believe that God has preserved His Word, but how He has chosen to do so, we disagree on. I think the KJVO has gone beyong believing in preservation to pickling His Word in English as found in the KJV1769. They've set God's Word in concrete, and left it there, even though our language is fluidic, and the Bible needs to be fresh. The Bible should be like fresh bread, not stale, like a sharp sword, not rusty. (Not to offend, 'stale'; 'rusty', just metaphors to make my point)
    Thoughts?
     
    #1 Orvie, Aug 12, 2004
  2. Pastor KevinR

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    yep, pickled.
    For today's readers, I suppose the 1611 would be stale and rusty.
     
    #2 Pastor KevinR, Aug 12, 2004
  3. natters

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    "Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. Give them the word of God as fresh and warm and clear as the Holy Spirit gave it to the authors of the Bible ... For any preacher or theologian who loves God's Word to allow that Word to go on being misunderstood because of the veneration of an archaic, not-understood version of four centuries ago is inexcusable, and almost unconscionable." - Edwin H. Palmer, spokesman for the NIV.

    Personally, I often like a pickle with my fresh bread. [​IMG]
     
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  4. Johnv

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    The problem with the KJVO thought (or any translation-onlyist thought) is that the proponents fail to discern between text and "the Word". The Word of God is not simply text on a page. It's what's conveyed in the text on the page.
     
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  5. Trotter

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    Most definately pickled.

    "Preserved" is like wine in that it gets better with age.

    "Pickled" is stagnant and becomes biter over time.

    I love the KJV. But it is but one of many valid translations.

    "King James Version Only"- the cancer of Christianity.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
    #5 Trotter, Aug 12, 2004
  6. AVL1984

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    I would say that the KJV is the PRESERVED WOG as much as the NIV, NASB or the ESV. The problem with the word "preservation" is that most KJVO's aren't honest with it's meaning. They tend to say that the underlying texts for the MV's aren't preserved, or at least not as preserved as those of the KJV. Have they taken into consideration that they must have been preserved for them to be here? Have they considered that ALL OF THE BIBLE DOCTRINES are held in tact in the MV's? Most haven't, or have been deceived, intentionally or unintentionally by their preachers into believing they aren't. It's a shame, because it causes division and schisms in the Body. I can agree to disagree with most KJVO's. I use the KJV as a matter of preference because I grew up with it. But, I also use other versions for clarity in some cases. Either way, God gets the glory, not me.

    AVL1984 [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #6 AVL1984, Aug 12, 2004
  7. superdave

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    Sounds like we are on the same page in this issue AVL1984. Just don't go trying to confuse the issue with facts. That doesn't go over well here ;)

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    #7 superdave, Aug 12, 2004
  8. Dr. Bob

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    KJV (whatever revision you opt) is excellent. I love it and always will love it.

    It is the KJVonly sect that is "pickled", not the version. I don't like to attribute negatively to a venerable English translation.
     
    #8 Dr. Bob, Aug 13, 2004
  9. AVL1984

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    I agree, Dr. Bob.

    AVL1984
     
    #9 AVL1984, Aug 13, 2004
  10. Orvie

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    I believe that the KJVOist:kjboist do in fact believe the version to be God's Word pickled in English, taking preservation to an extreme.
     
    #10 Orvie, Aug 15, 2004
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