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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Dec 11, 2017.

  1. Revmitchell

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    I was there they didn't do that.
     
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    Yes they did. Bad behavior was shown. The fact that the bad behavior resulted in a resolution is prima facie evidence that the bad behavior was rewarded. The motion was reworded, but its essence was adopted, thus giving bad behavior a reward. You can't ignore plain facts. He should have been told to sit down and shut up with his divisive garbage.
     
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  3. Revmitchell

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    McKinsic didn't get what he wanted but the bigger picture was that it wasn't about his behavior as it was about a large portion of those present who wanted it. His behavior is inconsequential to the outcome. And again he did not get what he wanted which was a condemnation and a resolution stating Trump was racist.
     
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    I really think that you are missing the intent of the word "coop" in "cooperative"

    The opening statement:

    Southern Baptists comprise a fellowship of nearly 16 million members in more than 45,000 churches in the United States and Canada. These churches work together through approximately 1,174 associations, 42 state conventions, and the Southern Baptist Convention to accomplish through voluntary cooperation far more than they could ever do alone. One of the ways they coordinate their efforts is through the Cooperative Program.
    So, even in the article you link, it is clear that the SBC is NOT a coop, but a convention.

    I really did think that this issue was long settled in the minds of the pastors of the convention.

    The programed giving of the local assembly should include MORE then the cooperative program. The local assemblies should ban together in many aspects to aid the local community.

    But NEVER is the SBC to be considered a coop.

    3. How the Cooperative Program works: Individuals provide tithes and offerings to their local church, and the participating churches forward a portion of their undesignated funds to their state Baptist convention. During the annual meeting of each state convention, messengers from local churches across the state decide what percentage of Cooperative Program gifts contributed by local congregations stays within the state to support local missions and ministries, and what percentage is to be forwarded to the Southern Baptist Convention for North American and international missions. At the Southern Baptist Convention Annual Meeting, messengers from across the country decide how the gifts received from the states will be distributed among SBC entities.
     
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    You are just lost.
     
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    He got a resolution passed. It would not have been passed absent his motion. The only motion passed should have been a motion of condemnation of that race pimp McKinsic.
     
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    He is that to be sure. the blog sight SBC Today lets him post his racist rants all the time. The resolution passed was not what he wanted at all. I voted against it originally but voted for the end product.
     
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    The end product was not in and of its self a bad resolution. Due to the way it came about, it should have never been passed. It was a reward for his bad behavior. It may not have been everything he wanted, but he should have been chastised rather than rewarded in any degree. SBC as a whole is running scared of its racist past and making poor decisions in the process.
     
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    Even when posting the proof from your own posted link, you just don't accept the truth.

    The SBC has never been a "cooperative." Local and state levels may cooperate together with various necessaries, but the SBC is a stand alone of it's own, with the authority and the decision making vested into hands of executive committees and directors.

    No individual or even group of SBC assemblies have authority as the determiners of decisions in any of the executive committees or directors.

    Again, that separates it from a cooperative. A cooperative has every member a decision maker and an authority to make decisions.

    Perhaps, you need to look at the compass to discern the direction.
     
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