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Proud Boys Charged with Sedition in Capitol Attack

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by FollowTheWay, Jun 6, 2022.

  1. BasketFinch

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    You're welcome.:)
     
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    There was a small fire in the basement of the church which caused no damage. There was no attempt to storm the capital and certainly no breach of it. No one was killed. Nobody talked about hanging the VP. Nn one was charged with sedition. Both we're protests but they we're vastly different.
     
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    No other country has anywhere near the number of gun deaths or massacres as we do. You seem to be in favor of continuing these. I believe in the sanctity of life. Obviously you don't.
     
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    Really? Just a “small fire in the basement of the church” which caused “no damage”? Repubs were threatened and accosted. Police were attacked.

    It is amazing how inconsistent you are with your moral outrage.

    It’s almost as if you have a political agenda.

    peace to you
     
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    Both were acts of terrorism.
     
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    You are not really for stoping death by guns. The first guns you want to ban are not the ones that are used in 99% of deaths. You are trying to ban sporting rifles, calling them military weapons. Stop listening to the lying news media, who are owned by billionaires and talk their language. They are surrounded by weapons including fully automatic weapons because they deem themselves better than us. Their lives are not more important than ours. The number one gun deaths is gang member on gang member by far. They are already forbidden to own weapons by the law. These are already in cities that have the most restricted laws there are. Gun control fails in those cities. They don't work. 0bama didn't enforce federal law that said a convicted felon would get an extra 5 years if he had a firearm or any ammunition on him. Pretty sure bid0n does the same. Punish those who misuse firearms, not law abiding citizens.
     
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    Guns save more lives than they take, that’s why police carry them.

    You would have millions more deaths if people were made defenceless according to FBI figures. By making people defenceless you would cause far greater loss of life.
    It reminds me of people not understanding the true facts of the situation and in the process of “doing good” they created a nightmare of death and suffering.

    The “ end child labour “ campaign inflicted on India by foreign do gooders ended in many families on the edge dying of starvation.
    8 year old boy could no longer work in a slum factory, he had to go home with nothing to his sick widowed mother and siblings with nothing. Great job do gooders not understanding the real situation. How many died unseen in that do gooder campaign.

    You be as defenceless as you like, don’t impose defencelessness on all of your society, it is evil. It is evil to take people’s natural right of self defence, it always ends badly.
     
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    Wow! Never thought I’d see a Christian advocating for 8 year olds working in slum factors in India.

    Source please to support your statement that FBI statistics show “millions” more deaths if gun control passes?

    peace to you
     
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    The alternative is that he and his sick widowed mother and younger siblings die of starvation. Is that the better Christian outcome you desire?
    Millions of children don’t have options or government support, the mother would have sent her little son out as the last desperate hope to survive. Until the do gooders, the walking, talking, air conditioned failures of understanding took that last hope away. Congratulating themselves on a job well done as they fly first class back to fat western countries to receive an award for do-goodery.

    You obviously have never had it hard. I’ve seen an old beggar woman pitch forked into a garbage truck from the gutter where she died. Experiencing no mercy in life and no dignity in death.

    Don’t be a complete failure of understanding, I see and hear them all the time, totally malinformed, and they cause great suffering in the world through sanctimonious ignorance.

    Look up defensive gun use figures that have been published by the government agencies FBI etc. Really inform yourself before imposing terrible ideas on society.

    The right to bear arms is the natural, inalienable Right of Self Defence, your constitution merely recognises this God given Right.

    Even if your constitution didn’t recognise this Right, people still have this Right, whether the government recognises it or not.

    Only the most advanced society and culture recognises this God given Right.
     
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    The alternative is for wonderful, caring Christians.like yourself, to adopt that poor widow and her family and make certain they have all the food they need.

    You could even take the 8 year old boys shift at the slum factory to make the extra money to support them, so he can learn to read and write and get a good job when he’s actually old enough.

    What a wonderful Christian ministry opportunity you have before you… unless your whole purpose is to find fault in others rather than lead by example to show compassion, love and dignity toward others.

    Please give us all the updates on your self sacrifice to help this poor widow and her children. May God bless your selfless efforts.

    peace to you
     
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    We are doing that. But what we aren’t doing is imposing a one size fits all regulation that causes more suffering than good.

    Sometimes child labour is the only option for many millions to survive, and avoid death.
     
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    Then the United States of America was conceived in sin and remains apart from God.
     
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    Really? You are already providing for the poor sick widow and her children. Odd you didn’t mention that.

    I think I’ll continue to oppose 8 year olds working in slum factories and rely on the good will of selfless Christians, like yourself, to meet those needs.

    Thanks for the conversation

    peace to you
     
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    Agreed

    peace to you
     
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    The British government lost its legitimacy because it violated people’s God given Rights, it was no longer government.
     
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    Not that particular 8 year old and family, they were already dead when I heard about them. Killed by ignorant do gooders.

    You keep opposing child labour, even if it kills millions of them, and at judgement you will be shown the fruit of your good work.
    Some places it is all the destitute have and they count themselves lucky to have a job that brings something in.
    Take that away in a sanctimonious virtue signaling and they die.

    Nice idea in an ideal world, but causes great evils in the world we have.

    We can’t be there for countless millions of them, so we certainly should not cut off their only means of survival.
     
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    Wow! They all died! Just like that! How incredibly tragic that ignorant dogooders killed them. Were the ignorant dogooders arrested and tried for murder after they killed that poor sick widow and her children? I sure hope so.

    I still think I’ll oppose 8 year olds working in slum factories and pray for God to send Christians such as yourself to help them.

    Don’t deny the ability of God to help ever single one of those millions of people. He is certainly able.

    peace to you
     
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    So is there any independent nation today which is not conceived in sin and apart from God?
     
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    I note you rely on other Christians and God to help out, but you haven’t mentioned yourself being part of the help.
     
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    I don’t like talking about myself. Besides, people just make up stories when they post online. Who can tell when someone is telling the truth?

    peace to you
     
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