Sunday worship is not "the mark of the beast" but the mark of the Christian.
Prove That Sunday Is the Christian Sabbath
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by TheThirdAngel144, Jan 18, 2018.
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So I have a couple questions. Why did you say you worship on Sunday, instead of saying you worship everyday? And why do you think Jesus only repeated (maybe only verbatim) 8 1/2 of the 10 Commandments? -
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However, to the resurrection I do not attribute something that cannot be unsubstantiated in the Bible. Let me give you an example. Christ appeared first to Mary Magdelene when He rose from the grave, of all His disciples. It would be wrong of me to make it law, that women should have the Gospel preached to them first, because Christ rose on a Sunday, and first appeared to Mary. Likewise, I cannot see how Christ rising from the grave makes Sunday the Sabbath. It lacks all of the fundamental parts of what made the Sabbath, the Sabbath. It lacks literally every single one of them. Christ did not rest on Sunday, He arose from the grave on Sunday. He wouldn't even do that on the Biblical Sabbath, but waited until after the Sabbath to rise from the grave.
While it is the a blessing, and truly, beyond a blessing, that Christ rose on that Sunday, how does that make Sunday the Sabbath? The Bible literally declares that Jesus blessed the 7th day in Genesis. It does not say, by word of mouth of Jesus, or the Apostles, that Jesus blessed the 1st day of the week.
Also, you don't go to hell for worshiping Jesus on a Sunday. We are to worship God literally every single day of the week. However, we do go to hell for blatantly refusing to keep God's day of rest, which is written in His law. This is why Jesus died for our sins, because we broke that law, and is giving us a second chance. It would be dishonourable, and disrespectful to break the Sabbath, which He died for us breaking in the first place. It would be wrong for us to break any other point of the 10 Commandments. There is no case where man can consider one part of God's law valid, and another part invalid. If you can do this with the Sabbath, you can do this with any, for all of it is written as God's will, and in His infinite wisdom. -
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As towards the international dateline, no clue. I would tend to think that it's where it's recognized internationally, but that could very well be wrong. This however is not a reason not to keep the Sabbath. Tough moral questions do not eliminate the neccesity of keeping God's law. Not knowing whether it is morally justifiable to shoot someone who is mowing down Christians for their faith does not mean we should do away with the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" altogether. As for reefing out a sail, I cannot see how that is positively a sin. -
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(1) Rest from strenous physical labor, and worldly pursuits. (Exodus 20:8-11)
(2) Spiritual Benefit - Getting to know God, coming into contact with your Creator. (Ezekiel 20:12 & 20, Exodus 31:13-17)
(3) Fellowship - With family and believers (for spiritual benefit as well) (Hebrews 10:25)
In American culture (and if we read about what just happened in Poland) business hours are regulated on a Sunday. There are many places that have been doing away with these blue laws, but there are many who would argue with you that is to the detriment of society. North Dakota last year refused to remove their blue laws which regulated business hours. There is seen in many eyes the value of having a day of rest, worship, and fellowship. However, while these things are to be valued, they are not to be legislated by laws of the state. Mankind has nothing to do with enforcing the first four laws of God's 10 Commandment upon people. We have already seen where that has lead us.
The rejection of God's Sabbath day is not a benefit to mankind, but an absolute curse. It is true, that many people become overworkers, many people cannot simply give a day to God, feeling the need to work 7 days each and every single week, and that vigorously. And that is not healthy. Overwork is damaging. Refusing to take time for rest is damaging. Refusing the great spiritual benefits of the Sabbath is also damaging. The Sabbath helps us to get to know God better, as we spend the entire day in spiritual benefits. Sermons, music, studies, fellowship - these things are needful to help us to learn more about our Creator, and truly keep His love, and wisdom before us. Without God's Sabbath, we forget God. This is actually the case. While Poland recently argued that rejecting Sunday is rejecting God, I argue that that asserment is wrong, but that rejecting God's Sabbath is rejecting God. And we know that those who whose to continue to reject God will face eternal damnation. The 7th Day is the day God picked out, and set apart for a holy use for us. And as Creator, He rests on the 7th Day. Do we come before Jesus, and try to spend time with Him during the time He specifically set apart for us, time that He took to stop creating, to spend it with the creatures He loves so much? Or do we ignore His loving offering for us, and reject Him and His day of rest and worship? -
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Thank you for all your replies everyone! Unfortunately, not one person has taken all four points and laid them out, wherein (as seen in the Old Testament) specific verses are laid out that teach the 7th Day Bible Sabbath. There are people who believe that Sunday is the Christian Sabbath, but it seems no one on this board has come forward with such Biblical texts, as we can find explicitely in the Genesis and Exodus.
I do find it ironic however, that while the Sabbath is pulled down as a yoke of bondage, Sunday is uplifted as a good day for the same principle as found in the 7th Day Sabbath. This would then suggest that the Sabbath was placed in the commandment for very good moral reason, and not simply for a ceremonial one, as those very same principles are found running through those who suggest that Sunday ought to be kept as a day of rest, or promote, in some way, Sunday as a day of rest and worship. -
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Christ is the Christian Sabbath
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On the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised [Leviticus 12:3].
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For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love [Galatians 5:6].
Likewise:
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you [Exodus 20:8-10].
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Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ [Colossians 2:16-17]. -
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