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Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by KenH, Oct 2, 2007.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Family Outraged After Deputy Shoots, Kills Dog

    John Reger
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    (WCCO) A Garrison family is wondering why a Sheriff's Deputy had to shoot and kill their dog in front of a toddler. It happened during a bank robbery investigation at a rural home a few miles south of Garrison, near the shore of Lake Mille Lacs.

    Jennifer was alone with her two-year old son, Derek. As she talked to an investigator in the front yard, she noticed a deputy nearby approaching her two dogs. She said Duke, the Basset Hound, was barking, Eddie, the Terrier Lab, was lying in the grass growling.

    "The dog was down, he didn't try jumping at him," said Stiernagel, "he didn't do anything, as soon as I turned around, he shot him right in the head."

    Derek watched from the front deck 20 feet away....

    "They could have said 'hey, you need to get your dog in the house, I feel threatened by the dog.' They could have maced the dog, they could have tasered the dog. They could have done a number of things. They could have shot his paw, shot beside the dog, they didn't have to kill the dog," she said.

    The Stiernagel's are not connected to the bank robbery. Investigators are looking for a 6 foot man weighing 225 pounds and dark goatee. He was seen wearing a Twins cap and a blue jacket and drove a silver Camry.

    - http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_271221137.html
     
  2. JFox1

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    Heads are going to roll! :mad:
     
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    Bolded mine, in both quotes

    Well, somebody's lying, and from the two "eyewitness" accounts it sure doesn't appear to be a case of "mistaken" viewing.

    I just hope that whichever IS lying, gets their just desserts!
     
  4. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of who said what this is clearly a case of the use of excessive force. As the lady said it was not necessary to shoot the dog in the head. He evidently didn't even ask the lady to put her dogs in the house.
     
  5. Bro. Curtis

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    It does seem like he could have asked to have the dogs in. But not all cops even carry mace. One side is definately lieing.

    But it has got to be awfully hard for a cop to approach an armed robbery suspect. I will always side with them, until their guilt is proved. Or proven.
     
  6. KenH

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    Apparently, this policeman needed(needs) better training.
     
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    My dog was trained to protect his family and his home. If someone came to our front door, the dog barked to let us know someone was coming.

    What right did this man have to shoot the dog on the owner's property? Where does it stop? Are they allowed to come in my house and shoot my dog next?

    If he'd have done that on my property, he'd have had to shoot me next because I'd have gone ballistic. He had no right to do what he did; I don't care if the dog was standing and growling and barking or whatever.

    Ask the owner to put the dog in the house before you decide to trespass on their property.

    This man is too trigger happy and should be removed from the force. And if it was me, I'd sue the pants off of him.

    Outrageous.
     
  8. FBCPastorsWife

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    Not sure if anyone remembers this or not but the same thing happened a few years ago when a family traveling on the interstate was pulled over and a policeman shot the family dog when it jumped out of the car into the grass. The kicker... it was all caught on video (which I viewed several times)! You could see the dog wagging it's tail right before it was shot. (You can read one account of it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/819436/posts ) Trigger happy cop in that case and it sounds like another trigger happy cop that MURDERED this poor family dog as well. I hope justice is served!
     
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    She was alone with her two year old son. She was talking to one investigator and the second approached the dogs. That stupid deputy should be fired.
     
  10. Bro. Curtis

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    Let's wait until a jury speaks. We're giving Gitmo terrorists more due process than our own law enforcement. Innocent, until proven guilty, folks. If it is shown that he was out of line, then I'm all for the above punishments.
     
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    I don't know, but something doesn't ring right with the lady's story. If they're after a bank robbery suspect, which should be deemed a dangerous individual, SOP dictates the other deputy watch the back of the deputy speaking with the woman, not moving around approaching dogs. But what do I know, eh ? can't even reach over and tie my shoelaces now...belly's blocking my view.
     
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    There is nothing in the op conclusive as to what actually happened. She said one thing the officer said another. Who do you believe?
     
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    A dog is dead for no good reason.

    I am not saying that any action should be taken against the officer. He may simply be ignorant of how to handle a situation where pet dogs are in the area. It is clear that he needs training before going into another such situation. And the city should probably recompense the family for the loss of its dog and the trauma caused, especially to the young child, to the tune of, say, $1000.
     
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    Her word against his. Who to believe?
     
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    I said before, how about we wait for a jury before we go awarding punitive damages.
     
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    Regardless of who said what there was no reason for the dog to die.
     
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    1) No. Police departments already get taxpayers' money.

    2) How about the police department showing some community goodwill in this situation.
     
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    After reading the article it wasn't clear on this issue. It seemed to present the womans view more than any other.
     
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    Putting on the uniform knowing you will be blamed first, and supported last, is extreme good will.
     
  20. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Just like the troops.
     
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