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Putin: "Bush win means US not scared of terror"

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  1. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    You might want to ask all the people who died in the flood that question or the people who were not on God's side after He gave Moses the Ten Commandments. Also Sodom and Gomorrah - just to name a few.

    Our God is a righteous God and there IS such a thing as righteous anger...

    We Americans displayed this after 9/11 and rightly so!

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  2. Pastor Larry

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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Iraq start to settle down very quickly. Now that they know Bush is going to continue in charge and won't back down, we could very well see the terrorists and insurgents see the "handwriting on the wall" and get in line.

    I think Putin is right ... and amazingly insightful. But that school deal over there probably affected him.
     
  3. JesusandGeorge04

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    Ummm... are you God? Do you claim his authority over the lives of others?

    I am aghast...
     
  4. JesusandGeorge04

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    And become slaves to our will? I see the fighting increasing because of desperatation.
     
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    And become slaves to our will? I see the fighting increasing because of desperatation. </font>[/QUOTE]That's because you're a liberal and don't understand human nature.
     
  6. JesusandGeorge04

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    Or perhaps that I do, and look to Christ for a better example than... yourself.

    Everyone crys out in pain of one sort or another... they are to be helped, not hurt.
     
  7. Hardsheller

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    How do you help a Fanatic with an AK-47 who is holding a knife to the throat of your little sister in an American School?

    How do you help that kind of mindset?
     
  8. JesusandGeorge04

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    By not participating in the global exploitation that causes someone to pick up a gun in desperation and pain. Those who are impovershed due to our affluence and who feel their cultural identity is being stripped away by ours have reason to be angry, and although we cannot allow them to harm us, why should we be allowed to harm them, further feeding this cycle of hate?

    It's gotta stop somewhere.
     
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    If the US pulled out of the Middle East tonight and stopped all financial support for all nations in the region including Israel, the killing and hatred would continue.

    Don't you read your Bible?
     
  10. here now

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    That would be thinking way too logically for the terrorists.
    Actually it is predicted to continue to be really bad through January elections.
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    Oh, brother. Saudi Arabia is the largest funder of terrorism on the planet and they are hardly "impoverished." Don't you watch television? Dudes sit around in bathrobes and towels on gold chairs with gold walls! We make them RICH, Honey. Stealing their cultural identity? Hardly. Women in Saudi Arabia are even allowed to drive. They treat women as chattel. 14, I believe it was, of the 19 hijackers on 09/11 were from affluent families in Saudi Arabia, attending universities in the West. Some were engineers.

    Osama bin Laden comes from wealth. Arafat squanders the money the US of A throws at him and starves his own people. Saddam starved his own people, lavished himself with luxury and billions. That's hardly the fault of America's affluence.

    We are spending millions to rebuild Afghanistan and Iraq out of own taxpayers footing the bill. That's not counting all the NGOs who are contributing all over the globe.

    How many billions are thrown all over the globe in US Foreign Aid!?!

    Don't believe everything you read in the Socialist Magazine November issue.
     
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    Where are we exploiting any other country?

    There is no one impoverished because of our affluence. We have been blessed more than some but whose fault is that?

    Now it is true that the cultural identity is changing in some or even most countries. We're not forcing that upon anyone. They ACTUALLY WANT what we have. Yep they actually want ALL the little things like cars, good housing, schools, clean water, sewers and sanitation, good roads, and the like that we take for granted. Why they even want satellite TV and air conditioning. Its not like we force our culture on them. They want it even faster than it can be provided. There is a smallish minority that would deny their own people these things.

    If we can help it we won't allow them to harm us but what country have we just went out and attacked without fairly good reason to do so? None that I can think of.
     
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    If I were to have any fear it wouldn't be from terrorists but of tyrants that use fear to promote their one world government.
     
  14. ballfan

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    Who do you see as promoting the one world government?
     
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    Satan's minions...isn't that what the Bible teaches or is that now conspiracy theory as well?
     
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    I didn't comment on the one world government at all. I was just asking who. I thought you would just openly name some names. So who?
     
  18. Pastor Larry

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    And become slaves to our will? I see the fighting increasing because of desperatation. </font>[/QUOTE]They are desperate. But once they find out that the coalition is not going to bail out under weak leadership and that the elections are going to happen, they will settle down. They are fighting now because they think they have a chance to derail the process. Towards January and after the elections, I predict it will greatly decrease.
     
  19. poncho

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    Okay ballfan,

    Members of the CFR, the Trilateral commision, IMF, World bank, Federal reserve, the World Trade organization, the Demopublicans (both left and right factions) the United Nations and the CIA. Thats a few entities. Those that have worked with one or all...Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush (and sons, and the secret societies they belong to), Bill Clinton and associates along with most other "democrats". This is just a small sampling. The press is probably the biggest culprit bacause it goes along to get along and is in no way a "free" press.

    America was founded on the ideals of individualism but has morfed into a collectivist mindset that I feel will be the ruin of our republic and freedom from tyranny.
     
  20. JesusandGeorge04

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    Perhaps for a while... but when the exploitation and culturcide stops, why would they want to continue?

    Yes, and it does not say we should exploit others. I would suggest not using the Word to justify your lack of compassion.
     
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