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Question for a knowledgeable Roman Catholic

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by ReformedBaptist, May 4, 2010.

  1. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    What can you tell me about Francisco Ribera?
     
  2. lori4dogs

    lori4dogs New Member

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    I know that he wrote a book about bible prophecy back in late 1500's. Other than that I don't know much other than what I read on the following site:

    http://www.bibleprophesy.org/jesuitrapture.htm

    This site is obviously NOT a Roman Catholic site. Interesting nonetheless.
     
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    BTW, I believe there are only two Roman Catholics allowed to post on this board.
     
  4. Mississippi John

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    I have a question for Our Catholic Brethren.

    Does the Church approve of marrying cohabitants ?

    If not, will they deny them a Church wedding ?


    Seriously, this question hits close to my home.
    Thanks for your help .
     
  5. lori4dogs

    lori4dogs New Member

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    Glad you refer to us as brethren. That's not always the case on this board. I will answer the question as best I can when I return. Maybe someone else will have information in the meantime.
     
  6. lori4dogs

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    A short answer would be that the Catholic Church absolutely welcomes a couple who have chosen to marry and end cohabitation. The Church teaches that a couple that is invalidly married must either separate or become validly married.

    I believe that pre-married 'living together' is well intended enough. Sometimes parents who don't want their child to enter into a bad marriage will encourage their children to live together as a trial period. However, studies have shown that couples who live together before marriage are more likely to divorce.

    Christianity has always preferred marriage to co-habitation. Again, the Catholic Church is anxious to validate a union between a man and woman.
     
  7. Melanie

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    I agree with Lori4dogs....the Catholic Church will always accept sinners, so a cohabiting couple would certainly be recieved with compassion and kindness.
     
  8. Thinkingstuff

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    I was raised Catholic and I never heard about him. Tell me about him I like history and I haven't come accross his name so I'm interested.
     
  9. ReformedBaptist

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    thanks for the link. The author, while well-intentioned, certainly has his bias to defend pre-trib.

    But I want to see if the work this guy did in the 1500s is available.
     
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    Thanks for your answer. It wasn't what I expected, but confirms what I was recently told by those involved.
     
  12. Mississippi John

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    I certainly appreciate your input !
     
  13. ReformedBaptist

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    Preferred??

    Christianity is supposed to be following the commands of God, who says that fornication is sin. Cohabitation is sin. Our Lord doesn't "prefer" that we marry, He commands it.
     
  15. ReformedBaptist

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    Well, reading through summaries and info from groups for futurism (and preterism for that matter) there is a unified "testimony" that these systems of eschatology had their inspiration from the Jesuit camps.

    It is not reasonable to me to suppose that because a Jesuit proposed a system of theology that those who hold similiar views (either preterist or futurist) have some evil agenda.

    The fact is that no one is denying is that Ribera, teaching what can be called futurism, and Luis De Alcazar, teaching what can be called preterist, were both Jesuit priests. It is also known that Cardinal Bellarmine supports Ribera's views, a futurist view, in his work called "Polemic Lectures Concerning the Disputed Points of the Christian Belief Against the Heretics of This Time."

    All three of these Jesuits published their work in the 1500s as part of their work in the counter-reformation.

    I do not know what the papacy has said is their official position as these two views, which are obviously incompatiable with each other. Perhaps someone has that information?
     
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    Very true Amy. What this board is calling "co-habitation" is a gloss over for its true nature: fornication.
     
  17. lori4dogs

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    My choice of the word 'preferred' was unfortunate. Though I think the word co-habitat is accurate, indeed fornication is sin.
     
  18. ReformedBaptist

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    I think co-habitate is the word people use to describe their fornication.
     
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