Question on Deut 5:16

Amy.G · Nov 9, 2009

FriendofSpurgeon said: ↑

I thought this meant that if I didn't honor my mother and father, they were going to kill me.
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That's what it meant in my house! :laugh:

thegospelgeek · Nov 10, 2009

steaver said: ↑

Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

"Honour"...to fix the value of something belonging to one's self.

Truly giving another "honour" is a very tall order. It is obtainable for it is commanded. But to "fix the value" takes humility and submission from the heart. Not because of fear of discipline, but out of reverence and love.

For a child to give true honour the child must first be taught how to honour and why it is a very good thing. How many parents fail their children and thus the child has no understanding of honour? How many children find their parents honourable?

The promisses are good and stand true for anyone who truly obeys the commandment. I don't believe there are exceptions, but God is judge and we cannot see the heart as He does.

Pro 22:6Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

This promise is good. The problem is, parents judge themselves by themselves or by others. If we would judge our "training up" according to the scriptures we would see a much higher standard for the promise to become effective.

The promise is that they will not depart when they are "older". Inmaturity can cause alot of grief. Trian your child well through these years and the promise is good.

BTW, my two children strayed from godliness and I once bragged that I did not raise them to do the things they were doing. I did some good training, but nowhere near the standard I discovered later in life in the holy scriptures. I was righteous in my own eyes. By God's standard I totally failed my kids. By the grace of God they are learning to eschew evil now and are working on their relationship with Christ.

How many Christian parents take their children to church every week for an hour or two and live as the world Monday thru Saturday? And these parents believe they are training their children "well".

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I agree. I often get questions about Prov. 22:6. taking a child to church and doing a few things is not training. It's part of it, but not all. The promise holds true. I also have sons who are away from God. I failed to train them, plain and simple. I can't say that God's word is wrong.

I can see where maybe we fall short on our definition of "honor".

BobRyan · Nov 12, 2009

thegospelgeek said: ↑

KJV (Deu 5:16) Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

ESV (Deu 5:16) "'Honor your father and your mother, as the LORD your God commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may go well with you in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.

Does this mean that any child who dies young did not honor father and Mother? Of course it does not, but what exactly does it mean?
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There are blessings given associated with obedience - and in this case -- blessings that apply to this life.

Thus in Eph 6 Paul again quotes this commandment saying that this is the first of the Ten commandments "with a promise".

Apparenltly Paul still valued that blessing.

in Christ,

Bob

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