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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I am sure there is some kind of nuance in the way he worded these two statements, but I am curious to know: Will Kerry subordinate America's defense and national interest to international opinion, or would he do as Bush did and go to war with or without the support of the corrupt supporter of tyranny called the UN as President Bush did. I think he might have answered that question when he said:

    Another resolution that is pretty much meaningless, Kerry? Resolutions, summits never won the peace with terrorists. President Bush understands this:

    John Kerry doesn't understand this and is therefore, unqualified to be president and to protect our nation and its interests.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Interesting use of words there in bold. [​IMG]
     
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    I don't believe this was the reason Bush gave for going to Iraq. I believe he stated there was a connection between Saddam and Al Quaeda, which correct me if I am wrong, the 9-11 commission confirmed.
     
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    Oh, John Kerry meets the constitutional qualifications, but I have absolutely no
    interest in having him as president.
     
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    I disagree. We pushed the UN aside and our true allies (I believe some 30 nations) joined us to make history. I am quite sure that Kerry would have been waiting even today for yet another resolution from the UN while Kofi Anon, France, Germany, and Russia were all making corrupt deals under the table with Saddam.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I think you are correct.
     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52839-2004Aug9.html

    John Kerry,

    You do not live in the land of reality. You do not have what it takes to protect the country and its national interests.

    Also from the same article in the Washington Post:

    Question: If it was the wrong war, at the wrong place, and at the wrong time and based on what he has called a lie about WMD's, then why would he still have voted for it?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Who says that? Al Zaqawri?

    I think Bush has done everything he can at this point to prove that this is not an imperialist venture. We have already transfered authority over to Iraqis. They will have elections in January. We have even restrained some of our own plans in Fallujah at the request of the Iraqi Government. I am wondering if Kerry isn't watching too many Michael Moore films or spending too much time at Moveon.org.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Bump
     
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    "I disagree. We pushed the UN aside and our true allies (I believe some 30 nations) joined us to make history. "
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    Most of those 'allies' are only in it for their own gains. The most important reason my own country is part of the coalition is that a prominent Dutch politician (Jaap de Hoop Scheffer) had his eyes on the office of civilian head of NATO. The Dutch joined and he got the job.

    "I am quite sure that Kerry would have been waiting even today for yet another resolution from the UN"
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    I suspect the notion of invading Iraq wouldn't even have entered Kerry's head.
     
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    You are correct in your last statement. Kerry would have put it to a global poll to see if it were a popular move from the sissy Europeans. He does not have a clue how to be a leader and do what is best for America.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    You have that right. [​IMG]
     
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    I suspect you are wrong Joseph. Kerry most likely wouldn't have asked anything. He simply would have stayed out of Iraq.
     
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    I disagree. We pushed the UN aside and our true allies (I believe some 30 nations) joined us to make history. I am quite sure that Kerry would have been waiting even today for yet another resolution from the UN while Kofi Anon, France, Germany, and Russia were all making corrupt deals under the table with Saddam.

    Joseph Botwinick     </font>[/QUOTE]Nailed that one, didn't you Joseph ?
     
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    There was some vague connection but no collaboration and no indication that Saddam had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11.

    You seem to despise diplomacy.
     
    #15 Daisy, Oct 4, 2004
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    No one is claiming otherwise.
     
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    Since when?
     
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  18. Pastor Larry

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    For a very long time ... that is old news.

    Here from Sept 17-18, 2003, more than 380 days ago:
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/140133_bushiraq18.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97527,00.html

    I think some people routinely confuse "Iraq-9/11 connection" with "Iraq-Al Qaeda connection." The latter is fairly solid. The former has not been argued for in a very long time. If you listen to the Dems, they keep saying there is no Iraq-9/11 connection; the Bush adminstration agrees with them on that.
     
    #18 Pastor Larry, Oct 6, 2004
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