Race Will have some Impact

To look back at the attitudes of the two major parties on race it must be recognized that the parties have undergone tremendous change over the last 50 years. In 1958 the democrats owned the South. I would agree that it was this Democratic party that harbored the most animosity towards blacks in America. Along came George Wallace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace


To stop desegregation by the enrollment of black students Vivian Malone and James Hood, he stood in front of Foster Auditorium at the University of Alabama on June 11, 1963. This became known as the "Stand in the Schoolhouse Door." After being confronted by federal marshals, Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, and the Alabama National Guard, he stood aside.

Wallace again attempted to stop four black students from enrolling in four separate elementary schools in Huntsville in September 1963. After intervention by a federal court in Birmingham, the four children were allowed to enter on September 9, becoming the first to integrate a primary or secondary school in Alabama.[7][8]

Wallace disapproved vehemently of the desegregation of the state of Alabama and wanted desperately for his state to remain segregated. In his own words: "The President (John F. Kennedy) wants us to surrender this state to Martin Luther King and his group of pro-Communists who have instituted these demonstrations."[9]

Then there was Orval Faubus in Arkansas.

On September 2, the night before school was to start, Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus called out the state's National Guard to surround Little Rock Central High School and prevent any black students from entering in order to protect citizens and property from possible violence by protesters he claimed were headed in caravans toward Little Rock.

A federal judge granted an injunction against the Governor's use of National Guard troops to prevent integration and they were withdrawn on September 20.

When school resumed on Monday, September 23, Central High was surrounded by Little Rock policemen. About 1,000 people gathered in front of the school. The police escorted the nine black students to a side door where they quietly entered the building as classes were to begin. When the mob learned the blacks were inside, they began to challenge the police and surge toward the school with shouts and threats. Fearful the police would be unable to control the crowd, the school administration moved the black students out a side door before noon.

U.S. Congressman Brooks Hays and Little Rock Mayor Woodrow Mann asked the federal government for help, first in the form of U.S. marshals. Finally, on September 24, Mann sent a telegram to President Eisenhower requesting troops. They were dispatched that day and the President also federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard, taking it away from the Governor.

On September 25, 1957, the nine black students entered the school under the protection of 1,000 members of the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army.

Yes, these were southern democrats but anyone claiming that these people are representative of today's Democratic party doesn't know their history.

Today's Democratic view on racial issues was initially demonstrated by President Kennedy in responding to these crises in the South. The "Freedom Riders" from the north who went down to the South to support the blacks under siege were Democrats. President Johnson overcame southern resistance and convinced Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlawed most forms of racial segregation. Johnson signed it into law on July 2, 1964. In 1965, he achieved passage of a second civil rights bill, the Voting Rights Act, that outlawed discrimination in voting, thus allowing millions of southern blacks to vote for the first time.

The Great Society, federal aid to education, and the war on poverty were all efforts to generally improve the lot of poor people but especially poor black people.

The Republican party opposed all these efforts. Now the South is solidly Republican exactly the opposite of the situation earlier. Equal Opportunity, Affirmative Action, Head start and many other programs were championed by the Democrats and opposed by the Republicans.

In short, Today's democratic party best represents the issues of black people in the U.S. while today's Republican party does not.

 

I'd like to see you list the ways you think the "Great Society" helped blacks. I'd like you to be honest, whan you do it.

Seems the more we fight poverty, the more poverty we create.

 

I'm voting BECAUSE of race

I can't wait to say, "Quit your complaining, you got your president." Then comes the reply, "He isn't REALLY black."

 

So...when the Democratic party says, "Government is the answer to all your problems...depend on us and we'll take care of you"...that's good for Black America?

Riiiight.

Unfortunately, many Republicans have bought this lie.

 

I just saw your post....

I have not heard anyone making racist statements in my part of WV...(Not saying there aren't.. but I don't run with racists... ) Of course, I am not that far from DC, so that may be one reason...

But I have no doubts that there are some, not just in WV, but all over that will vote along race lines...

On a side note, saw a poll last night that has Obama leading WV... McCain was, up until the first of Oct. and now he has dropped out of lead.

Check this graph out... http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Pres/Graphs/west-virginia.html

 

Says who?

Sense when has a Union member employed anyone?

What right does the Government have to set wages?

Trickle down is not a Republican philosophy, it is a Democratic simplification because they do not understand complex economic operations.

When economic conditions are conducive to profits and productivity then people are put to work by business owners that have capital to expand their business. Business that has no capital should go under. To prop them up is to create another bubble that will be ready to burst when our children will be ready for retirement.

Simple minds are not the type of leadership I will be voting for. And if you are correct that the Republican that has lost his job will be voting for the Democrat then they have given in to the lies of simple minds. Let government take care of us all and meanwhile babies die unborn and freedoms will slip into the black hole of "Change".

 

I know you were teasing...

The sad thing is, I have seen racism within my own family... and it is ugly.

 

Actually trickle down works both ways. The rich provide jobs and opportunity but when the rich loose their profits jobs are cut. There you go then. Remove the obstacles to economic growth and watch the economy take off and all will prosper. Handcuff the economy with more taxes and watch the economy take a dive. Did not the Bush tax cuts expire and the Dems have not extended or make them permanent? That constitutes a tax hike.

When will they ever learn?

 

Covetousness is unbecoming in a Christian.

 

If nothing else this current crisis proves that trickle down works. I mean a few bankers lost there jobs and some financial institutions failed, how could that affect us "Joe 6 Pack guys?"

But of course it does.

 

Possible job losses.
Tighter credit for all ... probably a good thing.
Higher taxes to pay off the debt.

 

1. Of course there are black Republicans, and (more important to me) black conservatives (I don't necessarily equate Republican and conservative anymore). However, when any racial demographic votes 90% one way, it is, by definition, a voting bloc.

2. Tell that to our founders. Government almost always screws up what it tries to fix.

3. This is simply wrong (the premise, not that some will vote reactionary). Case and point: Michigan--under union bosses and democratic leadership--their economy and jobs are in the toilet. Alabama--under Republican leadership for the last 6 years (and relatively conservative democratic leadership before that) and a more "hands off" approach--we've avoided the bust and our economy is booming.

Evidence is tough to refute.


Besides, I keep coming back to this: Show me one Constitutional provision, anywhere, that says the gubmint (read in this thread: The President) owes me a job or a nice economic guarantee.

 

No one on this board can defend Obama's socialism/communism using the constitution.

 

Can you defend Bush's socialism in nationalizing the financial system ... and McCain's support of it. Does this make McCain a socialist?