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Racial tensions roil Democratic race

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html


    Racial tensions roil Democratic race


    By: Ben Smith
    Jan 11, 2008 03:04 PM EST

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    A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.

    The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.

    “A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.
     
    #1 carpro, Jan 12, 2008
  2. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    It's funny, really, to watch how democrats react to being caught in their own political correctness trap.:thumbs:
     
    #2 carpro, Jan 12, 2008
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    Mainstream media giveth, and mainstream media taketh away. It's all about which 'stories' they want to play up and which stories they bury. Apparently a large segment of reporters, editors etc. are in the corner for Obama this time around.

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    I just realized, if Obama had put an ' in his name, we might think he was Irish Catholic. Thusly - O'bama


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    A very real racial divide is developing in the democrat party.


    http://www.thestate.com/presidential-politics/story/282561.html

    Clinton camp hits Obama | Attacks 'painful' for black voters
    Many in state offended by criticism of Obama, remarks about King

    By WAYNE WASHINGTON - [email protected]

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    Sharp criticism of Barack Obama and other comments about Martin Luther King Jr. — all from people associated with Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign — have generated resentment among some black S.C. voters.

    The furor comes just two weeks before those voters will have a significant say in who wins the Jan. 26 primary here.

    The Clinton-Obama battle has the potential to become a wrenching divide for black voters. Historically those voters have been strong backers of Bill and Hillary Clinton. But many black voters now are drawn to the prospect of a black man winning the presidency.
     
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    Yes it sounds like there is. But it's based on comments that Hillary made and the press chose to play up. In fact she was right; LBJ was the one who implemented most of the civil rights legislation.

    Bill Clinton in his prime would have never made such a political misstep. But Hillary aint Bill Clinton, and Bill aint as sharp and spry as he once was.
     
    #5 NiteShift, Jan 13, 2008
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    Do you really think this flap is going to stop a democratic victory in November? We as conservatives better wake up.
     
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    That's the point. In the past , democrat missteps concerning statements with racist overtones have been completely ignored by the media and by other democrats. The truth of whatever the statement was has never mattered in the past.

    This time it's working different.

    I just find it ironic that they are having such problems now, when they have made every effort in the past to be sure that others, meaning Republicans, can't mention race at all without being excoriated by the press and democrats as a whole.:applause:

    This is also a preview of any presidential campaign that has a black person as a candidate. Sharpton and Jackson will foment trouble over every minor glitch of a statement. They'll be aided in their efforts by democrats and the media, if the black candidate is a democrat.

    We have to remember that liberals are never uniters, just dividers.
     
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    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.
     
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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120035922504989981.html

    The Politics of Pigmentation
    January 15, 2008; Page A12

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    It wouldn't be Martin Luther King Day without some kind of racial dialogue, but the tiff between Democratic Presidential hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is especially instructive and ironic. While their substantive argument is ultimately pointless, it does help illustrate the perils of identity politics.

    Last Monday, in response to Senator Obama repeatedly invoking the late civil rights leader on the campaign trail, Senator Clinton told an interviewer, "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 . . . It took a President to get it done." Later on, in a separate interview, Bill Clinton didn't help his wife when he described a chunk of Senator Obama's record as a "fairy tale."

    The Obama campaign took umbrage at Mrs. Clinton's perceived slight of King and Mr. Clinton's patronizing remark. So did other black Democrats.
     
    #9 carpro, Jan 15, 2008
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    i'm just trying to figure out what i can do to help fan the flames of tension! lol!
     
    #10 bobbyd, Jan 15, 2008
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    "And they all fall down".....
     
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    Markos Moulitsas, of DailyKos urged Michigan Democrats to vote for Mitt Romney, "because if Mitt wins, Democrats win."

    "And we want Romney in, because the more Republican candidates we have fighting it out, trashing each other with negative ads and spending tons of money, the better it is for us."

    That being the case, I wouldn't mind if Hillary and Obama continue their food fight for awhile. Good for the goose is good for the gander. As they say.
     
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  13. Dagwood

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    It's just part of politics.

    I know I am thinking about voting in my states republican primary to try and sway their nomination even though I am a democrat myself.
     
    #13 Dagwood, Jan 16, 2008
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    Do you actually think that this is a racist statement?

    “I would point to the fact that Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done,” she said, in response to a question about how her dismissive attitude toward Obama’s “false hopes” would have applied to the civil rights movement. “That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people's lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it and actually got it accomplished.”

    You're welcome to your opinion but I can't see it.
     
    #14 JustChristian, Jan 16, 2008
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    She left some important stuff out, it was the house & senate democrats from the south who were against this bill, and Virginia dem. Robert Byrd fillibustered the bill for over 14 hours. It is clear from research the bill may not have passed without the overwhelming majority of house & senate republicans voting for it.
     
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    It sounds kind of weasely, Dagwood
     
    #16 NiteShift, Jan 17, 2008
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    No. There's not only nothing racist about it, it's the truth.

    And that's the point.

    Democrats are caught in their own political correctness trap.:laugh:
     
    #17 carpro, Jan 17, 2008
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