RCC kills everyone in Europe

BobRyan · Sep 23, 2003

Originally posted by Lea:
The Dark ages were a time of mystic and skeptaism . No one wanted to advance or learn. Most people didn't have a Bible. And those that had the Bible more than likely twisted it to mean what they needed to mean to assume the power they wished.

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The "dark ages" came about as a gift of the RCC to Europe. Learning was stiffled and progress brought to a halt.

The list of "forbidden books" published by the RCC in the dark ages - will give a good insight into what was in their heads and fully explains why they banned the bibles written for everyone to read.

In Christ,

Bob

BobRyan · Oct 1, 2003

I have the Catholic link to the list of forbidden books, authors, printers, preachers "or anything like that" - the list of "Forbidden books" is still available for the faithful to read.

In Christ,

Bob

GraceSaves · Oct 1, 2003

Bob, have you ever been wrong in your life before? I'm just curious.

BobRyan · Oct 3, 2003

I've been wrong - but I don't have a claim to infallability to defend - so it is easier to admit when I am in error.

In this case - we are still "waiting" for RC members on this board to have as much "outright Christianity" on the subject of the atrocities of the RCC in the dark ages -- as the Pope's OWN blue ribbon panel had in 1999.

In Christ,

Bob

BobRyan · Oct 4, 2003

How many "dodges" And "defenses" do you find in this response to the report about the Pope's research group and the Christian response to atrocities of the dark ages?

(Parenthetical comments/responses mine)

Originally posted by trying2understand:
Associated Press and Reuters are hardly "RC reports".

(even though they quote RC leadership?)

Without proper use of quotation marks, it is impossible to tell where one person's words end and another person's editorial begins.

(claim to be confused?)

In the future it would probably work more to the benefit of truth if you tried to not adulterate your source material.

(shoot the messenger?)

As to your "Papal Bull": a bull is a seal which is applied to almost any correspondence as an assurance of authenticity. For the bull which you cite to be of relevance in this discussion, more information is necessary. I will withhold judgement on it until you can source it better.

(Continue to turn the blind eye to history no matter what the Pope has recommended to the contrary?)

As to the Fourth Lateran Council Canon 3, if you read the complete document, you will notice that provisions are made for restoring people to the Church after judgement of guilt. Dead persons are not capable of being restored to good standing within the Church community so perhaps you make making some sort of incorrect judgement of the word exterminate.

(maybe getting "exterminated" is a "good thing" if we just redefine it right?)

One could exterminate heresy without killing people.

Tell me, Bob, do you not think that it is the responsibilty of the Church to call on those in civil authority who are members of the Church to defend the faith?

(extermination is "good" for you?)

Let's look at today. Does not the Christian church in totality have an obligation to call for our political leaders to defend the faith and oppose abortion?

(yes, but to "exterminate" those who oppose?)

Opposing abortion would mean making laws with penalties. Civil penalties. Would that then mean that the Church would be ordering the civil government to imprision people?

(hmmm - what did the Papal study group observe? Didn't THEY speak of torture and forced conversions? Is this the part where we "read the details" and see what happened in history?)

BTW, you are viewing this with your miopic view of contemporary American politics. At an earlier time in history there was little thought of the protections and liberties which we enjoy today.

(So it was "ok" for an ignorant and superstitious RCC in the Dark Ages??)

You are attempting to apply today's standards to a time and culture very foreign to your experience.

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Bob

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