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RCC Priest says Jesus may have been married

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Briguy, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. dumbox1

    dumbox1 Guest

    Offhand, I'm aware of the following:

    - His current books do not have the Imprimatur of a bishop (which would indicate they had been reveiwed and found to contain nothing contrary to Catholic faith or morals).

    - He has not sought, and does not have, a mandatum from his local bishop to teach Catholic theology.

    - The Committee on Doctrine of the (then) National Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a criticism of the most recent edition of "Catholicism" when it came out (in '96). You can read it here:

    Committee on Doctrine statement

    - A secret commando hit squad of Jesuits, funded by Opus Dei, are currently attempting to lure him out of hiding, using a TV camera as bait, so they can assassinate him.

    (Just kidding about that last one).

    Anyway, that's what I know of offhand. Probably plenty more I don't know about.

    Mark
     
  2. thessalonian

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    "If it is impossible for Mary to have relations with her husband "

    Once again, where did we say it was impossible. We just say that it was fitting and it did not happen. I think the point I am making with you is that you are outside of the window looking in, trying to figure out what is going on and failing bady. You will not understand until God gives you the grace to come inside and hear him. I am not offended however. :D

    Blessings
     
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    LOL! We had the same thought at the exact same moment, but you clicked the mouse before I did, LOL. [​IMG]

    Hi, Bro. Curtis! [​IMG]
     
  4. Eladar

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    This is just one more piece of evidence that the saying someone belongs to the RCC means absolutely nothing when it comes to beliefs.
     
  5. GraceSaves

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    Ah yes, that invisible list of assumed pieces of evidence that is in your head, and is not objective whatsoever. Sure, tack this one right on that list, because, not existing, there's plenty of room for it!
     
  6. trying2understand

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    Here is a Baptist pastor that says he doesn't know if Jesus was married or not.

    http://www.ngbaptch.com/qa.htm

    From the linked cite:

    Question:
    "If we are supposed to use Jesus as an example of living life on earth, Are
    we truly supposed to be married?"

    Answer:
    The bible does not explicitly address the question of whether or not Jesus was married. Rabbi's and religious leaders of Jesus' day were not required to abstain from marriage. William E. Phipps in his controversial books entitled, Was Jesus Married and The Sexuality of Jesus presents scriptural and historical evidence suggesting that indeed Jesus was married.

    Without definitive information from newly uncovered archeological digs, we will never know for certain. "

    Ok, are the non-Catholics posting to this thread ready to ask the same questions of Baptist's that they ask of Catholics?
     
  7. Eladar

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    Is the RCC willing to excommunicate this heretic?

    No!

    As I said, just one more piece of evidence.
     
  8. trying2understand

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    This gets even more interesting.

    Rev. Dr. William Phipps, a professor of theology and a Presbyterian wrote two books claiming that Jesus is married.

    Aren't Presbyterians simply Baptists by another name?

    Again, are you willing to ask the same questions about this gentlemen and Presbyterians?
     
  9. dianetavegia

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    No!
     
  10. Eladar

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    We already know that there are many different kinds of Baptists due to personal interpretation of scripture.

    The RCC is supposed to be immune to this kind of stuff.

    As I said, "supposed to be immune" to this kind of stuff. Well, so much for the "one true church" thing.
     
  11. trying2understand

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    Eladar, did you see the television show in question?

    If not, on what basis do you speak?

    And on what basis do you judge the man to be a heretic?

    Mark H. said that he did see the show and this is what he heard:

    "First, while he conceded that it's not totally impossible that Jesus was married (given that Scripture doesn't say specifically "Jesus was not married"), he considers it highly unlikely (citing one of Paul's letters). Basically, his comments and those of the other guy (from Dallas Theological Seminary, I believe) were pretty similar in that regard."

    Do the above comments make him a heretic?

    Try loosening your collar a little before you blow a gasket or something. :D
     
  12. Eladar

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    Anyone who would say that Jesus was married is a heretic. It is as simple as that.

    Although the RCC does not officially support this possibility, one of its representatives does.
     
  13. trying2understand

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    What is the "stuff" of which you speak?

    That a priest said that it is not impossible that Jesus could have been married but that he did not believe it? That he thought that a reading of the Scriptures leads him to believe that Jesus was not married?

    Very heady heretical stuff.

    By the way your opening remark about Baptists and personal interpretation almost sounds like one should expect heretical error in Baptists beliefs as a matter of systemics.
     
  14. trying2understand

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    Are you having difficulty comprehending here, Eladar?

    He did not - repeat "NOT" say that Jesus was married. He in fact said that he did not believe that Jesus was married. He said the the writings of Paul led him to believe that Jesus was not married.

    Comprende?
     
  15. Eladar

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    He did not just say that. He also said that it was possible that Jesus was married.
     
  16. Stephen III

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    Just for the record. In the show Father Mcbrien is asked point blank by the ABC host.:

    ABC Host : "Is there anything in the Bible that could even remotely be interpreted as stating that Jesus was married."

    Father Mcbrien: "NO"

    Catch that fellas, - not even remotely!

    The closest Mcbrien came to espousing this heresy is his comment that "even if it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was married, it would not change the church's view on His divinity". Hardly sounds like grounds for excommunication.

    I paid very close attention to the Father's words as I anticipated many from this board would be trying to twist the presentation as being some sort of "new Catholic revelation".

    In the end it was just a bunch of under qualified new agers and feminazi's looking to sell books. Not worthy of the time slot nor the hype.
     
  17. Eladar

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    From the clip I saw, the guy said that it was possible that Jesus was married.

    As far as the Bible comment goes, I don't think that many people view the Bible as the main source of 'truth'. This guy's very comment makes it appear as if the Bible isn't that important.

    The Bible doesn't say that Jesus had a wife, nor does it support the idea, but it is still possible.
     
  18. thessalonian

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    Eldar,

    We have the tares among the wheat and the wolves among the sheep verses in our Bible also last I checked. Once again another protestant speaking about Catholicism as an "expert" who simply doesn't have a clue.

    Blessings
     
  20. Eladar

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    Why did you delete your last post?

    In any case, the only reason why there are such obvious heretics in the church is because the RCC is unwilling to do anything about them. It doesn't take an expert to see that this guy is a heretic.
     
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