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"Reaganism Is Dead"

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by church mouse guy, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. church mouse guy

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    Conservative columnist Mona Charen has published an article on Townhall about the death of Reaganism.

    She defines Reaganism as a three-legged stool of strong defense, small government, and conservatism on social issues.

    Is there any debate that the American people have turned their backs on those three principles?

    http://townhall.com/columnists/monacharen/2016/04/29/reaganism-is-dead-n2155095
     
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    Reagan preached small government, but he enlarged the government and government spending greatly during his time in office.

    Reagan's policies were the beginning of the death of the American middle class.

    https://ourfuture.org/20140930/reagan-set-up-the-death-of-the-middle-class-but-china-was-the-clincher?gclid=CNCW5-_9s8wCFQhkhgodiMgLLw
    Reagan Set Up The Death Of The Middle Class, But China Was The Clincher
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    What a lot of Democrat lies. Reagan said that the Democrats accused him of increasing spending and he said that he never spent a dime--the Democrat Congress spent the money. Nixon tried to refrain from spending Congressional appropriations and the liberal Supreme Court said that Nixon could not block Congressional spending. Reagan tried to get a line-item veto to stop Democrat waste.

    It is the Democrats who believe that government is god and should be big, and you know it very well, Crabtown because you believe in big government and liberalism in social issues, not to mention liberalism in religious issues. And I don't recall your ever standing for strong defense.
     
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    But in order to finalize the spending of the money, the bill must be signed by the POTUS (short of an override). Problem is that so much money is put into bills that have nothing to do with the basic bill.

    For example - on a military spending bill - a congressman includes a 10 grand addition to build a park in his home district.
     
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    Crabtown claimed that Reagan enlarged the government and you, Salty, seem to be agreeing.

    1. Between Ike and W, no GOP president had a GOP congress.

    2. Democrats are opposed to the line-item veto.

    3. Reagan could have vetoed the omnibus spending bills but it would have shut down the government.

    4. Reagan never favored the Democrat spending bills but the Supreme Court said that when Congress ordered money spent, the money had to be spent.

    5. Reaganism is dead as a) people do not favor a strong defense but now have a weaker military than during Hitler's buildup; b) people do not favor a small government but actually think that government is a god; and c) people do not favor conservative moral values but support the liberal agenda on moral issues--actually, Hoosiers like former Gov. Mitch Daniels believe that the GOP should ignore moral issues.
     
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