Really saved or just anxious for your soul?

Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

How about the people in dire situations? Titanic for example. How many of those cried out to God? I am sure they were sincere but was it just because they knew they were about to die? If rescued how many would continue to seek God or return to their old life after disaster is avoided. Isn't true conversion life changing?

 

Thanks DHK!
Of course you are quite right. We are not the judges of anothers salvation.

However, I was seeking to prick the hearts of people and warn them of frivilous professions. I knock doors and have a nursing home ministry. I have had death bed conversions and they can be quite moving. When I knock doors I often get a response that I am saved but don't need church. I caution that attitude. If we really get saved we would have a desire to learn of Him that saved us. We would develop a desire to feed on God's word. God did say we would know them by their fruits. I am not using that verse to judge ones salvation, only to make people self examine themselves and to mabey search the scriptires.


Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

 

LorrieGrace: I agree with DHK, God KNOWS!!!!!! You cannot fool Him.

This thread was not started to judge others salvation. Nor an attempt to fool God, which is impossible. It was started so we could judge ourselves. Was your conversion true? Are you lying to yourself?

Religious people go to hell all day long. People in good churches go to hell that were faithful attenders.

The bible teaches that we can know for sure(about ourselves). I am just stressing the very real fact that if you are not fellowshipping with God's people, reading the bible, serving in some way or attending church, there could be a problem. Could be backslidden or unsaved. Not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.

Just because someone prays a prayer of salvation does not necessarily make them saved. I am not judging. I ask that we all judge ourselves .

 

This is why it is so important as soul winners that we take our responsibility seriously. So many baby christians are left on the door step. As any baby, if not fed will starve. We need to make sure we follow up and get these new converts into church where they can be dicipled and scripturally baptized. Alot of soul winners are inept in this area. The intent is good, but people need our time investment.

 

Posted by:november_echo Sir what do we mean when we say anxious for the soul?

What I mean is are you saved or did you just cry out to God in the moment? If delivered from your calamity would you still want God as part of your life?

How many are genuinely deceived into thinking they are saved by praying a prayer?

I think too many people are covering their bases. I run across people all the time that say they are saved and bear no fruit. They do not need church and will only discuss Christ on the surface, yet claim salvation. Others facing life threatening illness or situations cry out to God only to discard him after the emergency is over.

These are clouds without water. The bible says you will know them by their fruits. I judge no mans salvation. It is imperitive that you judge your own. A person can go to church and even be a teacher and still go to hell.

How many empty suits will there be in the pews after the rapture? Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. The attitude today is flippant twards God.

A child of God WILL produce fruit. Not as a condition of salvation but as a result of it. We can backslide from time to time, but God will bring us back or bring us home.

 

Posted by Artimaes: Death bed type professions are possible.

I work in a hospital and one of my duties is to take folks to the morgue on third shift. I am usually alerted prior to their demise that I should prepare.

A couple of things occur. 1. God has blessed me with the honor of leading some of these folks to Christ before the end as the thief on the cross was. 2. Folks are USUALLY drugged to the point they do not regain conciousness prior to death. If they do they are usually pretty out of it.

You are right Artimaeus. Some do find salvation in the end. Most do not.

I have told people that say they will just wait and get saved in the end, that they don't know what tomorrow brings. Often times your choice is gone well before death occurs.(due to hospital, hospice comfort measures.) Many times drugs bring on dimentia, limiting a persons ability to make the simplist decisions or understand that a decision needs to be made.

We must encourage people that today is the day of salvation! We never know what tomorrow has in store for us.

 

Very true Superdave,
There are those saved at the very end that have no time for works. There are also some very moral people unsaved that do alot of good. We must all work out our own salvation to be sure. It shouls never be taken for granted.

 

I agree Dr. Bob. It is becomming a rarity to see true repentance in a person. Now a days it takes years to overcome the simplist habits because we just don't want to let go. I remember when a person would get saved and their whole life was changed. I think we live in an age that just doesn't take God as seriously as we once did.