Red Heifer Born in Israel one month ago!

Gary, yes we can look for Israel for signs - but it has nothing to do with the Church. For Israel and the Church are two entities in the Bible. Israel will come alive after the Church will be taken away and the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth. So, the red heifer has some significance in the coming together of Biblical events (not to me as a Christian but for Israel).

 

Gary, yes we can look for Israel for signs - but it has nothing to do with the Church. For Israel and the Church are two entities in the Bible. Israel will come alive after the Church will be taken away and the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth. So, the red heifer has some significance in the coming together of Biblical events (not to me as a Christian but for Israel). </font>[/QUOTE]Barnabas, I'm sure that you believe what you say, just as I do... It would be nice if we could all agree on everything....

If God blesses Israel, it will be before he comes back... When the fullness of the gentiles come in, God could in fact bless Israel to repent and see the true Messiah...

What you have in Israel today, are Anti-Christ...

However, God is no respecter of persons... If Christ comes back to this earth and sets up a millennial kingdom, and souls are saved during that period, then he would have to apologize to all those that have died since his death... They didn't receive a second chance......

Peace, Gary

 

Barnabas, there’s no one in the preaching field that I respect any more than I do Adrian Rogers… I agree with him on almost every issue… I just don’t agree with him (or you, with all due respect ) on this issue… Sorry!

Peace, Gary

 

How exciting.....this is great news....hopefully with all that is happening in the STATE OF ISRAEL we will see in our life time the rebuilding of the temple....then watch out for the time of tribulation is upon us...the two witnesses are the ones that I want to see...I would even fly to Israel to see and talk to them...just think of all the questions that you could ask them...oh the excitement is building up...Go Israel Go...just my cheer for that STATE...God's chosen people...Glory be to God!!!!!!!!!!

 

Revelation 2:9

Gal. 6:15-16

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Peace, Gary

[ April 17, 2002, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: Graceforever ]

 

Many are they who ask, 'Who are God's chosen people in the earth today?'' Who are His elect?
tmAre they of the natural seed of the children of Israel? Are they the "Jews" according to their natural lineage? Are God's chosen biblical people the church of Jesus Christ? Are both the Jews & Christians to be rightful heirs of God's covenants of promise? A popular teaching is that the natural Jews are God's chosen covenant people & some even go so far as saying that any kind of concept of the 'kingdom of God" is strictly Jewish in nature.

It is commonly implied that the church must be raptured into heaven so that God can renew His separate program with the natural Jew. But is this truth? Is He going to remarry her in her present state? Is the law which is only temporary (Heb.7:12; 8:l3), able to somehow in the future, disannul the Abrahamic covenant (Psa.105:6-11) of which the church is now the ONLY partaker through the blood of Jesus Christ? Before one can answer these questions satisfactorily, we must find out just to whom the Abrahamic covenant pertains.

http://www.sigler.org/mckay/israel.htm

The definitive article that best explains my position....

Peace, Gary

 

Searching for the two witnesses...

http://www.bibleexplained.com/revelation/r-seg11-12/r11c-2witnss-v3.htm#1103-search4w

Peace, Gary

 

That Israel will be restored is not an issue. It will happen (IMO).

Matthew 21: (Israel set aside)
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures,
The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Romans 11 (Israel to be restored)
17] And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the
olive tree;
[18] Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
[19] Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
[20] Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
[21] For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
[22] Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou
also shalt be cut off.
[23] And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
[24] For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be
the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
[25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Acts 1: (Israel's restoration promised by Christ)
[6] When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
[7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, , which the Father hath put in his own power.

That Israel will be restored is not an issue. It will happen (IMO).

HankD

[ April 17, 2002, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: HankD ]

 

Hmmm, they seem to work just fine when I click on them, is anyone else having the same problem as Eaglelives911?

BTW, you might be able to cut and paste the addy... I think the link that I posted on Israel is the best possible article that explains my position...

Peace, Gary

 

Squire, just to satisfy my own curiosity, was there a forum rule that we (I) broke in this thread? Also, wasn’t this a legitimate issue to discuss in a civil manor?

Not trying to question your authority, just want to know where I stand, and where the boundaries are drawn in respect to certain subjects … I’ll be glad to uphold to the same rules as everyone else….

Thanks in advance…. Gary