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Reminder: GOP Presidential Debate Tonight on Fox News Channel at 8:00 p.m. CDT

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Go Ron Paul Go!!!!
     
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    Almost makes me wish I had cable tv. Almost.
     
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    looks like they will have streaming video, looking for a link...
     
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    #4 KenH, May 15, 2007
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    I'm watching on FoxNews.com!

    Be sure to send your vote after the debate:

    Who won Tuesday night's Republican presidential debate?

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    (Note: On some phones, steps 3 and 4 may be reversed. Some older phones may not be capable of sending text messages.)
     
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    Ron Paul just crushed Rudy with that Shah history lesson. Too bad nobody knows it.
     
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  7. KenH

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    It is pretty clear after watching the debate tonight that the Republican crowd there assembled and the nine candidates other than Congressman Ron Paul are simply bloodthirsty. They have no conception of history and no conception that how we act as a nation - for good or for ill - affects how other nations and other people in the world react to U.S. policies. In other words, no conception of how a constitutional republic should behave itself domestically and internationally. The Republicans are a pathetic bunch. And I hope they get their clock cleaned - from the presidential race all the way down to dogcatcher - in the 2008 elections.
     
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    Rudy looked pretty mad at Ron Paul!!
     
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    What gets me is that the Fox people are misstating what Dr. Paul said.

    He did not say that 9/11 was caused by the U.S. He did say that U.S. policies cause people all over the world to hate us.

    Anyone who denies that is ignorant or misguided or just plain lying.
     
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    Congressman Paul should dump the Republican Party and run for the Libertarian Party nomination. At least that party has some people in it with sense. The Constitution Party has some as well.
     
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    I watched the foxnews.com webcast and I must say the 8 USC college kids got far more questions than Ron Paul did and they didn't have to spend $25,000 to do it.

    The Giuliani v Paul showdown was the first time I've seen these two events get close to debate and it seemed to get folks a bit nervous. Regardless, of who won that little tussle it was good for Paul as it will likely be much talked about in the post-analysis.

    Though, my loyalty remains with Paul, he did not have a good showing tonight. He stumbled in his responses, especially on the last question. Whether or not he maintains his momentum will be dependant on people caring more about content than emotion and perception and that is not always a Republican or American strong point.

    I would see Huckabee and Brownback as the debate winners tonight. Among other things, Brownback nailed the abortion issue and Huckabee had the best one liner of the night. Duncan Hunter deserves an honorable mention and Tom Tancredo went into my dog house for piling on Paul.
     
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    I watched most of hte first hour. I thought Ron Paul totally blew it tonight. That exchange about the war demonstrated the concern that I had previously mentioned about him. I didn't watch the last 30 minutes, but up until then he did not do well. He does not give me any confidence at all that even understands what his going on. Once you get past a few rehearsed lines, he just doesn't cut it.

    Of course, in these debates, I think we should just do away with the questions. Throw out a topic and let them talk for one minute. No one answers questions anyway.

    I thought Brownback did well especially on abortion. I thought Romney did pretty well. I thought Huckabee and Tancredo did well as well. Guiliani and McCain can do nothing but lose in these things, I think.
     
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    I think that Justin Raimondo has the best analysis of the debate between Ron Paul and Benito Giuliani:

    http://tinyurl.com/29y448
     
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    Only with bloodthirsty warmongers - of which there are many in what is left of the once Grand Old Party.
     
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    Concur with that analysis, Paul was right, Giuliani was wrong it will just be interesting to see how it plays.

    I like the Benito first name, that's fitting. I like the Rudy McRomney thing too...much to be learned in a name. :)
     
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    Sean Hannity is a blithering idiot!
     
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    Nice attack there. But misguided. It has nothing to do with bloodthirsty warmongers. It does have to do with tact and ability to communicate. Ron Paul simply messed up. It wasn't that he was necessarily factually wrong (though I think he overstated the case). It was that he sounded like a "blame America first" person. And that doesn't play well when you want to lead America.

    I realize that the Ron Paul sycophants here can't see past that, but that was my impression. I really have no dog in this race. I don't konw much about any of them, and am not greatly impressed by what I do know.
     
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    Sean Hannity - a warmonger's warmonger. [​IMG]
     
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    I can't blame you for that. It was Ron Paul and the 9 Pygmies on that stage tonight.
     
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    This is extremely well stated by Mr. Shaffer:

    May 15, 2007

    A Majority of One

    Posted by Butler Shaffer at May 15, 2007 10:09 PM

    Thoreau observed that "any man more right than his neighbors constitutes a majority of one." Henry David must have foreseen Ron Paul's performance this evening!

    I don't know when I have seen a greater gaggle of the morally and intellectually bankrupt than in the other 9/10ths of the so-called "debaters" in this GOP sideshow. The platitudes and bromides that oozed from Giuliani, Hunter, Romney, et. al., were given a sound jolt by Ron Paul's insistence upon fact and reason. Giuliani's sycophantic brown-shirts in the audience cheered his attack upon Paul for having stated what, by now, must be known to that remnant of intelligent souls in the country - i.e., that American military adventures throughout the Middle East have been the cause of Islamic anger toward the U.S. The motto of the GOP establishment could well be taken from Mark Twain, when he said: "truth is the most valuable thing we have. Let us economize it."

    And what of those who, on the abortion question, spoke of the "sanctity of life," even as they praised the continuation of a war against innocent people, their lives being snuffed out by the scores on any given day? Do the conservatives fear the depletion of the supply of fetuses who would otherwise grow up to be cannon fodder for their imperialistic wars? Furthermore, those who spoke with an iron-fisted self-righteousness about the "illegal immigrants" who come to this country peacefully, to work, could not understand Ron Paul's contention that American soldiers entering Iraq illegally, and for violent, destructive purposes, would likewise raise the anger of Iraqis.

    One of the yahoo candidates concluded that America was the last hope for civilization. It has been my contention that Western Civilization is in a state of entropic free-fall. Listening to this crowd - Ron Paul excluded - convinced me that I am right. A society that can cheer both "American Idol" and Rudy Giuliani has a bleak future indeed.

    - http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/012999.html
     
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