Republicans move to protect DeLay

I don't know what he did over the past year or so, and I don't read him or watch him except the occasional Capital Beat program. This was probably the first time I have seen Crossfire in the new format (since Buchanon and Press was it?). So I happened on this unsuspectingly while I was grabbing a bite to eat.

Galatian, It is intereseting that Lee said nothing of the kind. I think you will also find the following interesting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6506619/

Oops ... Turns out Galatian is wrong again. Larry was right all along. The Democratic rule does not apply to the top party leaders apparently, meaning they don't even have the rule they criticized the Republicans for changing. When will you learn, Galatian?

It is also interesting to see what this rule change actually does. It doesn't give a free pass. It gives the responsibility to the house Republicans to decide. I didn't know that.

 

If you are serious, then you should do a google search using "Novak" and "Wilson."

What he did was despicable.

 

If you are serious, then you should do a google search using "Novak" and "Wilson."

What he did was despicable. </font>[/QUOTE]Why? I presume you must be talking about his allegedly outing a CIA person. That has not yet been fully investigated. But doesn't he have freedom of the press? He broke no laws that I am aware of. Do you know of any?

When someone uses freedom of the press for something you like you probably are all in favor of it. When he doesn't, you aren't. It seems kind of hypocritical to me. But I haven't followed the story closely, and it doesn't appear to make much difference.

 

You are apparently wrong. The rule does not apply to top leaders. It apparentaly applies only to committee chairs. That was plainly quoted for you to see. Don't ignore it because it shows you to be wrong. Admit you were wrong, or prove that you are not.

Yet that has not been proven. The guy who made the complaint to the house ethics committee was reprimanded for it. Why are you always against more information and waiting until we know what happened? You are way too eager to jump to conclusions about your political enemies. You should have learned by now not to do that. You should have learned to wait until we get the information and see what the truth is.

DeLay was right about that. If he has done something wrong, he should be removed. The Republican House Caucus has the authority to do that.

 

That hasn't happened. In these United States a a person is innocent unless proven guilty.

 

There is no hypocrisy. The GOP should not hand its power to decide its leaders to a Democratic hack prosecutor in Travis County.

 

Yeah, sure Galatian ... ... I am coming to the conclusion that you don't even take yourself seriously. But you do make us laugh ...

They have no rule because they had no rule. It certainly wasn't because they didn't need it. And neither one needs it now. The new Republican rule places the leadership in the hands of the Republican caucus rather than in the hands of prosecutors.

You are a liar. YOu have been corrected time and time again on this lie and yet you continue to tell it. I am not a loyal Republican because I am not a Republican at all.

This is the second major lie you got caught telling in this thread (after the one that the Dems have a similar rule when they don't).

You should be learning to close your browser and resist the urge to post. You are not good at this. You are getting caught in false statements, lack of basic rudimentary knowledge, and bad logic way too many times. YOu need to try a new hobby.

 

I don't think either side should such an idiotic rule as this. Remove someone from power simply because they are accused by an ousted Representative and indicted by a prosecuter from the most liberal county in Texas who's got a case of the big head? The Travis County DA is laughable and, he is not even newsworthy here in Houston. Not even our 'liberal media' believe him.

Chris Bell, the accuser, has been reprimanded for 'exaggerating' DeLay's supposed misconduct. In other words, he made up most or all of the allegations.

Bell is a former Houston city councilman who lost his seat and ran for mayor. He lost in the primaries, so he decided to run for Congress. He won and served for one term until DeLay pressured TX Republicans to redraw state district lines that had illegally be drawn by judges.(State law says that the congress shall redraw the lines after every Federal Census. When the process was stalled for a time, activist judges decided to take over the legislature's job and redraw them themselves.)

Chris Bell lost his seat in the primaries, again, and has since taken on the task of making up any kind of story he can to get back at DeLay for the new district lines.

Bell is a hack who never should have been elected to any office. He is a nobody who wants to be a somebody, just like the Travis County DA. They should both be ashamed of themselves.

 

And I agree with them doing so. It's called politics. There is no reason for the GOP to disarm politically to satisfy the Democrats.

 

At least you finally got something right. The pope is Catholic. But Larry is not a republican. 1 for 2 will lead to a good batting average. But it is absolutely pathetic in pursuit of truth. It is inexcusable when you have been told the truth and you refuse to change your own thinking. You have way too high an opinion of your own mind. When someone tells you something truthful about themselves, you need to learn that they know what they are talking about. I happen to know my political affiliation. You do not. That makes me the expert on it. Learn to listen and close your browser when you feel that urge to reply. You will help us all out.

 

The truth remains the truth. Your uwnillingness to accept it does not change it. What I have defended is not the Republicans. You can read my posts and know that. I have defended the truth. It very often conflicts with you for obvious reasons.

And I can understand why you don't like it. If I were continually wrong, I would hate someone pointing it out as well. So in order to avoid that, I just tell the truth. You unfortunately have not learned that lesson yet. You keep hoping you will get away with it. But you don't ... You just haven't learned that you are not good at this game. Virtually every time you lie, you get caught. It is a frequent occurrence, unfortunately. And it is easily remedied.

 

If DeLay is found to be not guilty of the charges, then the accuser should pay his legal fees. I say that about anyone accused of something. I include all types of lawsuits in that. False accusations are cheap for the ones who make them, and expensive to defend. People need to think twice about making charges and there needs to be a consequence for making false charges. There is perhaps no single step that would be more effective in cutting down on frivolous lawsuits than this one.

If DeLay is found guilty, he should be removed from all offices, restore all improperly taken money, pay any expenses incurred in his removal and the appointment of someone to fill his roles, and go to jail.

But that is not a Republican issue. I think the same thing about Republicans making charges about Democrats, or employees about employers, or neighbors about neighbors. That is just plain old common sense.

I typically don't spend a lot of time on here on Sundays. I sometimes look at a few threads, but didn't see this one. But it was an easy answer.