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Rev 11:14

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by menageriekeeper, Dec 6, 2008.

  1. menageriekeeper

    menageriekeeper Active Member

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    Using the NIV because that is what I have handy:

    The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon. Rev 11:14

    The first "woe" is described in Rev. 9:1-11. The second is described in Rev. 11:1-13. Where is/what is the third "woe" that is coming soon?

    Is it described in the prophecies of the "seven thunders" that John is forbidden to write down? (chp 10:1-4)

    Is it somehow included in vs. 15-19 of chp 11 even though that passage doesn't sound very woeful(to me at least)?

    Or is it on in the book and I missed it somehow?
     
  2. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    I believe that the third woe is included in the events following the sounding of the seventh trumpet:

    Revelation 11:15-19, KJV
    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
    16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
    19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


    With the sound of the seventh trumpet The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ. Rather than a vision of woe we see a picture of the triumph of the Kingdom of God. Voices ring out, the praise of all the host of heaven, the great multitude, the four beasts, and the twenty four elders. The coming of the Kingdom brings resurrection, the resurrection to life, the Blessed Hope, of those who are redeemed to God by the blood of the Lamb. These are the ones who fear His Name [Matthew 10:28], those who overcome [1 John 5:4], those whose robes have been washed white in the blood of the Lamb [Revelation 7:14]. These will wear a crown: the crown of life [Revelation 2:10], the crown of righteousness [2 Timothy 4:8]. These will enter into the joy of the Lord [Matthew 25:21] and become pillars in the Temple of God [Revelation 3:12]. With all the host of heaven, the redeemed will sing: We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    What more can be said than to know that we are heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ [Romans 8:17] and that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is [1 John 3:2, KJV]. The vindication that those under the altar [Revelation 6:9] long for, the vindication that all Saints of God long for, is complete.

    In contrast, those who have rejected the grace of God, who have trampled underfoot the Blood of the Covenant, who have loved darkness rather than light, will learn that death is no escape. Theirs is the resurrection to judgment. They are the recipients of the third woe, the ultimate woe, the second death, the lake of fire.
     
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