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Revelation 17 :8 why "Yet is"

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by william s. correa, May 20, 2006.

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  1. DesiderioDomini

    DesiderioDomini New Member

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    BTW, if you continue to call yourself the "messenger", yet your message is false information, there is only one place your messages are coming from.

    If you are a messenger, then you are a messenger from Satan. Either that, or you are simply talking out of your rear end.
     
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    "My Grace is sufficient for thee" :D [​IMG]
     
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    william s. correa New Member

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    I never said he added anything YOU said that! I said Yes it was there from the beginning because GOD IS Eternal!
     
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    william s. correa New Member

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    And No I dont need Pepto Bismol! Thank you! God only Wrote One BOOK! and I am thankful to have a Copy of it: Now on the other hand you have a copy of a Minute portion of a fraction of what is the Real Deal! :eek: :eek: And cant stand the fact that you have wasted you time with it! when you could of read the real Meat you are still on the Milk! [​IMG]
     
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    Originally posted by william s. correa:
    Erasmus Never Added anything

    Then how did kaiper esti get into the TR?

    And he sure didnt take away!

    Howdya KNOW?

    He was Brilliant and should receive a Medal! He had proven the church to be A three ringed circus in which " Yes or NO!@!!!"
    was the Star Atracction!


    Seems like the 3-ring circus is HERE, promoted by a certain clown.
     
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    So why do ya try to add the KJVO myth to it.

    And how did kaiper esti get into the TR unless Erasmus goofed?
     
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    No, it wasn't. Kaiper esti at Rev. 17:8 was there only after Erasmus made his first TR edition.
     
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    No, it wasn't. Kaiper esti at Rev. 17:8 was there only after Erasmus made his first TR edition. </font>[/QUOTE]There you Go!
     
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    how can you say it was not there from the beginning? do you have the original manuscripts. As far as I know no one has the originals.
     
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    So why do ya try to add the KJVO myth to it.

    And how did kaiper esti get into the TR unless Erasmus goofed?
    </font>[/QUOTE]No goof, just positive action on the Holy Spirit! and those word have no diffrece in their meenings just a Better way of getting the truth out!
     
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    Originally posted by william s. correa:
    And No I dont need Pepto Bismol! Thank you!

    No, it now looks like a case for "Liquid Plumber".

    God only Wrote One BOOK!

    Actually, on earth, He wrote only ten sentences. He wrote them on stone tablets which He have to Moses.

    All His other words for mankind were written by men as He inspired, commanded, and influenced.

    and I am thankful to have a Copy of it:

    You have the autographa?


    Now on the other hand you have a copy of a Minute portion of a fraction of what is the Real Deal! :eek: :eek: And cant stand the fact that you have wasted you time with it! when you could of read the real Meat you are still on the Milk! [​IMG]

    Actually, I have several copies of several translations, which I have no prob at all reading. I try to use all that God has provided.

    Now, once again...If Erasmus didn't goof, then how did kaiper esti get into the TR?
     
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    Amen Brother! it is up to them to prove that it wasn't there when indeed it was! The proof is the KJB!
     
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    Do you have any evidence to support your position that it was, SFiC?

    Or are you simply guessing that it was, then avoiding this question like William?

    Please, produce your evidence, or just evade, as usual. Shall I prophecy that you will choose the latter?
     
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    They are not in any known ms of Revelation. If they WERE there in the beginning, in the originals, but not now, then how could we trust any Scriptural mss at all?

    We dance with who brung us, dealing with the mss we have available now, TRUSTING GOD to have given us His word in the wording HE chose for us to have. Erasmus had no authority to add nor subtract from it any more than WE do.

    Face it...Erasmus just GOOFED. That comes with being human.
     
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    "Ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God." Jer. 23:36

    No, it now looks like a case for "Liquid Plumber". You have the autographa? Yes the KJB
    in Blood!
    Romans 14:10-12
    KJB – 10. "But why dost thou judge thy brother? Or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ.

    11. "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    12. "So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God."
    "Actually, I have several copies of several translations, which I have no prob at all reading. I try to use all that God has provided."

    "For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God..." [2 Cor. 2: 17 KJV*] "...which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." [2 Peter 3: 16]
     
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    Amen Brother! it is up to them to prove that it wasn't there when indeed it was! The proof is the KJB! </font>[/QUOTE]No, the KJV is just a translation of Erasmus. Greek. Its translators used the material at hand. No known ms had the reading 'kaiper esti' at Rev. 17:8, but the Textus Receptus does! Now, that only leaves a few possibilities:

    1.) Erasmus deliberately added it.(Not very likely)

    2.) Erasmus goofed. (Quite likely; he dashed off the first edition of the TR in quite a hurry)

    Well, Mr. Correa, which was it?
     
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    It is a shame that william and [personal attack deleted] deny that God preserved His word for every generation. According to them God denied all of His people from 100AD until 1525 the complete, perfect word of God. Every manuscript reads και παρεσται and no manuscript reads καιπερ εστιν. So, according to william and [personal attack deleted], God lied when He promised to preserve His word for every generation because it is obvious the generations from 100AD through 1525AD did not have καιπερ εστιν.

    It is really sad with william and [personal insult deleted] say God is a liar! :(

    [ May 22, 2006, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
     
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    And yet another attack on my character. I never denied God preserving His Word.

    You sir, need to learn respect for a brother in Christ. You blatantly lie about statements that I never made.

    These attacks must stop. It is satan that accuses the brethren, but many truly allow him to work through them.
     
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    "Ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God." Jer. 23:36

    That's exactly what the KJVOs have done, vainly trying to justify their myth.

    No, it now looks like a case for "Liquid Plumber". You have the autographa? Yes the KJB
    in Blood!


    Hmmm...all my copies are written in INK. Howdya keep the pages from sticking together?


    Romans 14:10-12
    KJB – 10. "But why dost thou judge thy brother? Or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? For we shall all stand before the judgement seat of Christ.

    You should consider this Scripture before you tell your fishing stories and fables. I believe GOD might have a stronger name for your tales.

    11. "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    You'd better think about that. Do ya wanna bow to Him EAGERLY, IN JOY, or outta FEAR cuz ya know He's not happy with you?

    12. "So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God."

    And that includes YOU!

    Howrya gonna account for dissing HIS word cuz some MAN toldja God was limited to just one version?


    "Actually, I have several copies of several translations, which I have no prob at all reading. I try to use all that God has provided."

    "For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God..." [2 Cor. 2: 17 KJV*] "...which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." [2 Peter 3: 16]

    First, "corrupt" should be "peddle".

    Second, "unlearned" and "unstable" are two words YOU should avoid mentioning.
     
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    If you agree that the reading as found in the TR does not exist prior to 1525, which you have offered no evidence to refute, you must believe that God lied and did not preserve His word. If you do not believe that give me the catalog number for ONE manuscript that contains the reading as found in the TR. Just one.
     
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