Richard Pryor dead.

Real evidence...if you mean to say because it wasn't on E.T. ...than I guess not. Or the fact that his entire life wasn't taped to be shown to the world...than I guess not.</font>[/QUOTE]Actually, I was referring to the very public vulgar statements that were made by him at the end of his life, as recent as this year.

And as such we cannot give any sort of judgment. As the Pastor pointed out, "why are people so eager to paint somebody into heaven."

One could say "why are people so eager to paint somebody into hell."[/QUOTE]

Did I say that I was eager to paint Richard into Hell? Please don't put words in my mouth.

Does it make you feel good?[/QUOTE]

It does not make feel good that anybody goes to Hell. Not even that I believe Hitler and Saddam's sons are there right now. Hell is a horrible place that many people go to, however. The way I feel about situations doesn't change the truthfullness or lack thereof for a particular idea. Why would you say that anyway?

Maybe God loves you more? [/QUOTE]

That was a very ugly thing to say. Of course God does not love me more than him. It is by the grace of God that I am saved and not heading for Hell myself. I am quite sure, had the free will decision truly been mine, the total depravity of my sin nature would have caused me to plunge headlong into Hell. Read more about what the Bible has to say about this here, here, and here.


Sounds like BS to me.[/QUOTE]

It looks like Richard Pryor certainly made his impact on you with the way you use the same kind of language. What a shame that you chose to post such vulgarity on a Christian board.

By the way, to even use the name Hitler or Saddam as an analogy is disgusting. [/QUOTE]

If God is great enough that he could save murderers such as Hitler and Saddam's sons, he is certainly great enough to save a vulgar man such as Richard Pryor. I'm sorry you didn't understand the point.

Joseph Botwinick

 

1. He may have earned the praise and regard of man, but nobody is good enough to earn the regard of God.

2. Again, there is absolutely nothing funny about Hell and you should not trivialize the seriousness of this situation by stating that Richard is in Hell telling jokes. I can promise you this is not the case for anyone who is in Hell today.

Joseph Botwinick

 

It is sad day, but why should we wonder/worry/discuss if he were saved or not.

We should be focused on the countless people that are living, that are NOT saved.

Mourn the loss, and move on and work with the living, it's those we can help bring to Christ.

Jamie

 

Sorry Joseph.

 

We do know that the bible says: "Enter ye in by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many are they that enter in thereby."

I hope he did come to know Jesus. We don't have the answer, only the Lord knows.

 

No problem. It is easy to have a misunderstanding out here on the board.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Since when did knowing someone personally become a prerequisite for judging the fruit that has been publicly displayed for more than two decades?

In Ga 5 and 1 Cor 6, Christ said certain kinds of people will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Read those lists, and read or listen to Pryor and then make your own judgment based on the word of God.

Pryor could have repented in his dying moments. Who knows ... But my point is about the body of work. This man has no place in the life of believers.

 

I can just hear my neighbor say,"he's in a much better place now." sick.....

I believe that anyone that is absent from the body would say something to lead loved ones to Christ, were it possible to communicate with them.

The dead in Christ obviously would.

The dead without Christ would not want anyone to come where they are.

 

So I guess that Richard Pryor, Rodney Dangerfield, and Lenny Bruce are all in Hell. Can you imagine what The Devil is going through with all of that? When the three of them gang up on Satan they probably make him cry.

And why is it that the interesting people go to Hell? I don't want to spend eternity with a bunch of fuddy-duddys (sp?) who have never had an original thought throughout their entire lives.

 

The concept that Hell is going to be this big party led by Satan is no where to be found in Scripture, and it is quite sad to see people that claim to know Christ believe such things.

 

YOu have a very unbiblical concept of hell. Hell is a place of eternal torment for those who rejected Christ. It is not a place of laughter where the interesting people go.

 

How sad to see speculation about someone's eternal destiny. God deals with each in his own way. I in no way would place myself between a man and his maker.

Richard Pryor gave me many, much needed, laughs. Society would be boring indeed without its iconoclasts. He indeed will be missed.

 

Spoken like a person of class, breeding, intelligence and refinement. Well said.

 

And history would be boring without Hitler....

I don't see how a Christian could be comfortable with this guy's humor. It has no place in the Christian life.

I have no problem saying it, Mr pryor showed no sign of being saved, and showed plenty of reason to believe he wasn't.

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

How did you make the leap from the word "society" to the word "history"? Why do you think Hitler is analgous to Richard Pryor?


Shall we take up collections of Richard Pryor CDs and burn them in the town square along with copies of The Catcher in the Rye and "witches"?

 

Do whatever you want.

 

But were you with him in his last days? I showed no signs of being saved for years before God broke this stoney heart of mine and turned it toward Himself. If I had died the next day, people would be acting like you all, judging my salvation upon my life before Christ.

 

I have no idea whether or not Mr. Pryor was saved.

That aside, the Bible condemns "ribald comedy" in the strongest terms and lists it as one of the things for which the wrath of God comes on men.

"Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor coveteous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritence in the kingdom of Christ, and of God.

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God on the children of disobedience. Be not therefore partakers with them."

Mark Osgatharp

 

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