Ron Paul Explains the Law to Rick Santorum

Yes, I guess if someone doesn't obey the establishment clones, they are "lemmings." :laugh:

Sorry, but that is stupid. YOU are the lemming. But go ahead, vote another big government Republican in, that is going to run his mouth, but govern JUST the same way Obama has. Obey your media masters, clone.

 

You are exactly right, it is going no where. What you forgot to mention is that between 2001 and 2007, there was a Republican President, a Republican Senate, a Republican House, and a conservative Supreme Court, and abortions continued undiminished. It amazes me each and every election Christians continue to buy the speeches of liberal Republican mouths about right to life, family values, and gay rights. Republican candidates pander for votes with the blood of innocent children, and the vast majority on this board continue to aid and abet them.

The Republican candidate is going to get thrashed by Obama this year, and they deserve every vote of it. All I have heard for four years is Obama this and Obama that, and you turn right around and vote for an exact clone of him. Those of you who have given the Republicans a free pass as far as morality, federal spending, and balanced budgets get exactly what you created.

 

Salty,
I think Florida is unlike most southern states in its voting pattern. They tend to be more like a small nation wide barometer, like in 2000. Take that with the fact it is a closed primary, which does boost the consservative factor somewhat, my prediction is

Gingrich 30
Romney 28
Paul 24
Santorum 18

 

No problem. Fifth amendment. Quoting:

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."


Also, the fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So the fifth amendment prohibits the Fed, while the fourteenth says that States must also protect these...

My bad. I notice it was made that way by judicial fiat... :/

Well considering that Paul is not campaigning in Florida, not much. The polls have him at 10 percent, and I expect him to get about that. Maybe a few percent higher.

I believe this is a wise move for Paul. Considering that Florida is "Winner take all," spending millions campaigning there, when they already got there delegates cut in half (50), would not be wise.

 

Continued undiminished? Nope. Republicans have legislatively put roadblocks before abortion whenever they could, and the number of US abortions have been dropping steadily since the mid-70's.

Yes I know, that's what you were saying last election too. It seems to just set some people off when others won't vote the way they want them too.

Dr Paul talked on the campaign trail about keeping all our entitlements (actually the major portion of spending) and that he could save a ton of money on "foreign spending". Doesn't sound much different from what Obama was saying during the last campaign. Maybe he has a magic wand that we don't know about.

 

Your numbers are flat wrong. Even if you were right, abortion still exists. Your party had six years to get rid of it, and nothing was done. It is nothing but pandering for votes for blood.

You bet it is what I said last election. What was the result of the last election? It does not seem to bother you much.

 

The "entitlements" that he referenced, was social security and medicare. He also spoke of "completely phasing out" welfare. There is no other Republican willing to go this far.

The fact is, Social Security and Medicare is NOT the governments money to spend. It is not some government funded socialist program. The people paid in their OWN money into the system. For you to even suggest that we should allow them to starve in order to fight undeclared, illegal police actions overseas, is ridiculous.

 

"The abortion rate in the USA fell to its lowest point in more than 30 years, and the actual number of abortions also continues a steady decline, according to the first new comprehensive data in five years, released today.".

I try not to worry about things that I can't help. For instance, when certain groups of voters would rather sit out the election or even vote for BHO in order to prove a point.
The Partial Birth abortion act was enacted by that Republican majority that you like to trash. Instead we have a president who actively opposed any limits to late term abortion. So who should be more bothered?

 

I know what those entitlemets are, and I too hope they can be saved. I'd like to have them available when (if) I retire. R.P. has not put forth any plan to save them other than to vaguely say he will save money on foreign spending.

What foreign spending? Does he have some as yet unseen powers of persuasion that would get everyone to agree on cuts?

As for illegal undeclared wars, Congress authorized the Iraq and Afghan invasions - See for example Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002.

 

BTW it is not my party. I have never registered as a Republican. I just vote for em.