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Saddam's execution.

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by El_Guero, Dec 29, 2006.

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  1. mioque

    mioque New Member

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    They did.

    The UN opposed giving the death Penalty To Saddam.
    http://www.newsgd.com/news/worldkeyword/saddam hussein/200611070023.htm

    Tony Blair opposed giving the death Penalty To Saddam.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-11-06-blair-saddam_x.htm?csp=34

    And so did the governments of Ireland, France, Spain, Sweden and the Netherlands.
    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article1959073.ece
     
  2. Pastor Larry

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    There was no "kangaroo court." And the US has no jurisdiction. Some idiot lawyer actually filed an appeal in the US courts. What law school did this guy go to? The US has no jurisdiction in Iraqi law. It was carried out in their system by their people. The Iraqi government has no obligation to listen to anyone else. It's only obligation is to seek justice for its own people.

    The only marginally legitimate complaint is that it should have been an international war crimes trial like Nuremburg was. But it didn't need to be since it was a crime of war against his own people in his own nation, not against others.

    Saddam got a fair trial it appears, and got what he deserved. To paraphrase Nathan Hale (I think), the only regret is that he had but one life to give for the hundreds of thousands that he took.
     
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    Thank you. The point is Justice was administered by their own people either way.
     
  4. mioque

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    Personally I wouldn't describe a lynchmob as administrating justice. :tonofbricks:
     
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    Neither was lynched.

    Mussolini was shot to death and hanged upside down.

    Ceausescu was executed formally by firing squad. Trial transcript:http://www.timisoara.com/timisoara/rev/trialscript.html

    All things considered , justice was served. They got what they deserved. As did Saddam.
     
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    3-page warning: This thread will be closed no sooner than 3:15 a.m. ET by one of the moderators.

    Lady Eagle
     
  7. LeBuick

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    I think his trial and sentence was on 9/11 or when Bush said he must go.
    The rest of this show was agreeing to date and executioner.
     
  8. Pastor Larry

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    Bush had nothing to do with it. The trial took place last year in Iraq with Iraqi judges. American lawyers even came to the defense of Saddam, something completely inexplicable. But the trial and sentence was not on 9/11 and Bush had nothing to do with it at all.
     
  9. EdSutton

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    Only Pete and 'Saturn' realized any of my point, it seems. There is absolutely no question Ol' Sad'm was a despicable criminal who deserved the strongest sentence that could be meted out, IMO. How else could one describe one who had maybe half a million people killed? And I do understand completely that our laws and legal system are not involved, here, as well.

    The point was that of 'complicity'. Where did his weapons and technology come from? Where did he get his munitions, etc.? Follow 'the money trail', folks. As another has said, his usefulness for and to some countries had reached an end. So be it.

    Ed
     
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    I disagree in part, as to the crime of war against his own people. This is partly true, to be sure, but not totally. Have you forgotten Iran and Kuwait, perhaps?

    Ed
     
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    International politics is like sausage. You don't want to see it being made. And it doesn't always taste good. In addition, it was more than 25 years ago. How much did we really know about Saddam? I don't know, but it seems possible that what we now know was not know then. And equipping someone to fight our enemies seems only wise.

    I was referring to the crimes with which he was specifically charged. Had the issues of Kuwait and Iran come up, an international trial may have been more justified. My understanding was that the next charge would have been the killing of Kurds.
     
  12. LeBuick

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    Didn't we just kill him for crimes he committed decades ago? If this was totally an Iraqi show, why was he just brought to justice. Answer, because Bush went and took him out of office and gave him to the Iraqi justice system for one reason. If this crime didn't do it, we had plenty of hold cards...

    The day Bush decided troops would go to Iraq, Saddam was guilty and sentenced to death. You can deny it, but we all know our soldiers are not looking for WMD. We went there for one reason and one reason only, you can say WMD or ties to terrorist but it doesn't change why we are there.

    Prior to us going, do you remember the terms Bush asked Saddam to surrender under? You maybe right about 9/11 not being the exact date but Bush had everything to do with it. If Saddam was found innocent, what, we apologize for the invasion, leave and put him back on his throne? Come on man, you can't really believe bush had nothing to do with it...

    Who went even when the UN said there was not sufficient reason to go? Wasn't me. Wasn't you. Now who does that leave??????
     
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    If Bush Senior would have finished the job in 91, we would not be there today! Saddam should have been taken out and executed then.

    I think we are blaming the wrong Bush...
    Or is it "barking up the wrong Bush?" lol
     
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    Amen, Pastor Larry.
     
  15. KenH

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    No. We drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait at that time and that was as far as we could realistically go at the time. We would have had the same mess then that we have now.
     
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    I think that some of us believed that U.N. sanctions and the defeat of Saddam's army would have caused major dissent in his own country. No one counted on the Iraqi people to be content to do nothing about their own evil dictator. Maybe(and this is only speculation) that if enough of the major populace had arisen to depose Saddam they may have recieved support from the international community.I wouldn't blame Bush Sr. so much as I would blame the people of Iraq for being so complacent of being under the rule of Saddam.
     
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    The Shiites did rebel in southern Iraq but we failed to come to their aid. Perhaps if we had helped them to set up an autonomous region like we did the Kurds in the north things would have turned out better overall in Iraq.
     
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    The shiite rebellion of 1991 was encouraged by the Sr. Bush but because Bush Sr. knew very little about these people he balked at supprting them. It is understandable why the Shiites distrust us so much.
     
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    We didn't kill him at all.

    Saddam missed his best chance for martyrdom when he failed to use the pistol he had with him in the hole when he was initially caught.:thumbs:
     
  20. Petra-O IX

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    We didn't kill Saddam but we did aid and assist the Iraqi courts with carrying out his execution.
     
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