Salvation

This is the way I see that the lake of fire and brimstone cleanses us from our sins and washes us till we are pure:

Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:
Mal 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

Look at how the sons of Levi are cleansed so that they may offer unto the Lord with righteousness.

Lets compare it to Isaiah 4:

Isa 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning.

As trash is burned and precious metals are purified by the use of LITERAL and PHYSICAL fire, so God burns our spiritual trash and purifies those qualities of character worth saving by His SYMBOLIC and SPIRITUAL fire. Physical fire is inanimate and uncaring. God’s spiritual fire is caring and loving.

Is it possible that this fire is the divine fire of God is to cleanse, purify, purge, temper and change. It is to get rid of impurities, of filth, of undesirable elements?

Psalm 1:6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
The WAY of the ungodly shall perish. . This does not say the person perishes but his ungodly ways.

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Here it says man’s work shall be burned but he himself will be saved.

So does it mean that when a man perishes only his bad portion perishes for an eternity but he has salvation and is put in the Book of Life?

Can you give me some examples that refute this?

Thanks
Kahlon

 

Hi

Rev 20:14 and the death and the hades were cast to the lake of the fire--this is the second death;
Rev 20:15 and if any one was not found written in the scroll of the life, he was cast to the lake of the fire.

The second death is the end of death and the grave which were cast into the lake of fire.
This is like a symbol of speech cause you cant really throw graves and death into the lake of fire. I believe at this point there are those who are cleansed by God’s fire.
Like in this verse:

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

They will be saved by fire. By God’s consuming fire.

Like in:
Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The chaff gets burned up, the part that is no good, but he gathers the wheat which is the good part of the plant. It is like comparing to using wheat from the field, we only use the seed of the wheat and get rid of the chaff.

Rev 21:8 and to fearful, and unstedfast, and abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the liars, their part is in the lake that is burning with fire and brimstone, which is a second death.'

Here it says the bad works which is listed, that part of the person is thrown into the lake which again is symbolizing that those evils or bad parts of a person is finished with for ever.

When it comes to the soul part, I still have to study that.

Kahlon

 

Hi

Yes webdog, I do believe God is omnipotent, like stated in…

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.

And

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

And

Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

He will do what he desires and according to his will and nothing can stop him from doing that. He has one mind to carry out his actions. He will do all his pleasures.

So if in

1Tim2:3,4
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Jesus also works in one accord with God.

John6:37
All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.

And what did God give to Jesus..

Joh 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

God gave Jesus power over All flesh to be given eternal life to all.

So with these verses in mind, it is hard to believe that anyone will perish. It has to mean something else will perish. What really gets thrown into the lake of fire. It doesn’t seem to be people so, God is omnipotent and will do what he says he wishes, desires or what is his pleasure. So I study and try to find out what these other verses mean that seems to contradict what God desires or wishes.

Kahlon