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Featured Sanctification precedes regeneration.

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Nov 25, 2022.

  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    To have eternal life is to know from God, John 17:3 and 1 John 5:9-13. If it were possible to stop knowing from God then 1 John 5:13 could never be true.
    Hebrews 6:6 as explained, in verse 4 is an impossibilty, and the writer explains in verse 9, ". . . we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. . . ." Of those of verses 4-6 were never saved.
    FYI, verse 6 not "If" but literally "And they shall fall away, . . ."
     
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    You have given no explanation. Though it is clear you imagine you have done a brilliant job of explanation.
     
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    I have and you did believe.
     
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    Point to the exact post as I must have missed it. Show me the detailed explanation you already gave. I wait your presentation.
     
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    Hebrews 10:29. 'Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose , will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace.'
    'Son of God' is the nearest antecedent of 'he' whether you like it or not, and to describe it as 'not literal' is not true. I understand that you do not like it, and Presbyterians would love you for it because your view disproves Baptist theology. But my understanding is perfectly literal and supported by many Baptist commentators.

    However, we shall not agree and I am quite happy with what I've written, so we'll leave it there. Thanks for the discussion.
     
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    We already dealt with this misinterpertation.
    ". . . Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? . . ." The "he was sanctified" refers to "he be thought worthy" in the verse.
     
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    Wait what!? This is your deep, well defined definition?

    "Jesus in His prayer in John 17:17, ". . . Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. . . ." Meaning the hearing of God's word sanctifies."

    That's it? Really? You think that post fully explains your view? That is what defines sanctification and regeneration and then determines that being made holy comes before being made alive?

    Well, you proved my point. You have absolutely nothing and you cannot articulate what it is you are trying to say. You have lost any credibility on this topic. You are holding onto a figment of your imagination.
     
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    This is a very unorthodox position.

    most believe sanctification to be an ongoing process of a believer
     
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    What is sometimes called orthodox is not Biblical.

    Sanctification begins with Cod, Joh17:17, 1 Peter 1:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
     
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    Justification precedes sanctification
     
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