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Sarah Palin will win debate, expectation moderately high

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by YOUTUBECANBESAVED, Sep 29, 2008.

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  1. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

    YOUTUBECANBESAVED New Member

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    Make no mistake their are three major candidates in this race
    John McCain
    Barack Obama
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    Sarah Palin :as been shown on this board through opinion and polls

    Sarah Palin supporters are the energizer bunny in this campaign they do all the hard grunt work, they work the phones, they work the vans, they knock on doors and work that church directory.

    Why Sarah Palins expectations s/b moderately high,
    1. When she has time and prepped, coached, with timed zingers she can deliver on que.
    2. She is no stranger to debates, just watch on C-Span her performance she did way better than expected.
    3. Whoever wrote her speech at the convention we all agree deserves a raise, those same people are prepping her and they are going for the sound bites.
    4. Those sound bites will energize the base again and give them a second wind
    their hope and desire is to see her as President is almost cultic, (IF) WHEN THEY ARE ENERGIZED.

    Sarah favorables have been falling I think they are negative 10, alot of that is John McCain's fault by keeping her corralled and not letting her gain experience with the national press, even among Christian sites she is being hedged because of "she is not ready for prime time" and her Pentecostal background (Pastor Muthee's wackery).

    I have my opinion of a McCain/Palin administration of being something out of Shakespeare's Macbeth the paranoia would be palpable.


    A lot is at stake in motivating those hard workers in their deep convictions they really don't trust John McCain but they do trust Sarah Palin and John McCain in words thought, but unspoken still sees the Religious right as agents of intolerance.

    So, I think she wins this debate and where Obama is scoring consistently at the 50 percentile mark(one poll has him at 51 today) and McCain is back down in the low 40's, 43,44, Sarah is worth 3 percentage points because of those people who network so hard and when they are energized, it becomes a horse race.


    A lot of pressure, and if she delivers she deserves credit

    I think McCain's handlers are sending her out for a knockout punch and punches, she is ready and focused because she has been protected up till now from a lot of distractions(I stated earlier not good in my opinion) but now comes her moment to get the train back on track.

    If this fails and it might, look for the attitude across the board

    "Why would anyone want to be President now?" they will try four years down the line based on percieved and hyped disasters(faux news).

    My Opinion on this Political Board:tonofbricks:
     
    #1 YOUTUBECANBESAVED, Sep 29, 2008
  2. LeBuick

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    I agree, with her being sequestered, America really doesn't know what to expect. We have taken one answer from the few interviews she's done and written her life's story. The truth is she's beat some hardened politicians to get where she is and she did it with comfortable margins. She has lined her political rise with the carcases of those who underestimated Sarah. One reporters said if she doesn't drool in the mic she wins, I say she wins even if the mic is wringing wet. If that is the expectation, how can she not win?

    Biden is in the toughest spot of his career. He has to seem capable but not demeaning. Dominant but not domineering. Authoritative but not over stated. The picture (like with MCain and Obama) is that of a father and a child so Biden (like McCain) has the impossible task of proving he is an equal or he (like McCain) looses on the sympathy and opinion scales.
     
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  3. KenH

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    I just hope that Senator Biden looks at her and refers to her as Governor Palin.

    I feel sorry for Sarah Palin. She must scared to death about this Thursday night's event.
     
    #3 KenH, Sep 29, 2008
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    I doubt that very much. Right or wrong, she has a lot of chutzpah and self confidence.

    After delivering five kids, she is supposed to be quaking in fear? Have you heard the woman pray?

    Joe Biden has a 37 year record of being wrong on most issues--this is someone to fear?

    Remember, in two presidential runs, Biden did not get enough support for cab fare. Now Sarah Vs. Hllary.... that would be ooooo, Cat Fight!
     
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  5. KenH

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    She hasn't shown it in any of the interviews she has had. She has come across as a bit of an airhead; however, I don't she is. I think it's that she is unprepared and nervous. Those are conditions which could doom her chances of having a good debate effort on Thursday night.

    However, I am sure that regardless of how she does that right-wingers will hang on her every word and proclaim that her effort proves that she is the greatest person to live since the days of the apostles.
     
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  6. Pastor Larry

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    Ken,

    It won't matter what she says or does, you will think she failed. And you will come up with some smarmy, self-righteous comment about it.
     
    #6 Pastor Larry, Sep 29, 2008
  7. Andy T.

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    Over 29,000 posts not worth the bytes they were written on.

    ***Edited to note that said posts are now in excess of 29,000. Any further edits will have to made by the same system that monitors the world population clock minute by minute.***
     
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  8. Major B

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    And others will oppose her because she is pro-life and does NOT conform to the feminist ideal of a woman with no soul, an ideology from Hell, and a worldview repugnant to all that is decent and good.
     
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  9. KenH

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    Oh yeah? I say more in one of my posts to every ten of yours.
     
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    And you will come up with some smarmy, self-righteous comment about why I am wrong.
     
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    Actually, you post the same thing, usually ten times in a row.
     
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  12. Pastor Larry

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    I don't need to come up with smarmy, self-righteous comments (thought I don't think I could). You are wrong without them. :D (You're not too good at this game, Ken.)

    In fact, last week you were caught in a demonstrable error of fact, and you continued to defend it and refused to admit you were wrong.

    The fact of the matter is that to you it wouldn't matter what Palin did. I think if she said that 2+2=4, you would disagree.
     
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  13. Revmitchell

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    Kind of like this thread:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=53479
     
    #13 Revmitchell, Sep 29, 2008
  14. KenH

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    Nothing wrong with that thread. There is nothing that I wrote that is not factual.
     
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  15. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member
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    The title is a clear intentional lie. And you will continue to defend it in the face of the evidence I posted disproving your lie. Much like PL said.
     
    #15 Revmitchell, Sep 29, 2008
  16. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Is not. Did you even look at the chart. Anyone who looks at the chart knows that I told the truth. And you need to retract your personal attack against me in this thread and in that thread.
     
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  17. LeBuick

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    What's wrong with the title? I haven't see one poll that conflicts with it. Can you provide proof it is a lie?
     
    #17 LeBuick, Sep 29, 2008
  18. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

    YOUTUBECANBESAVED New Member

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    Fightin Joe will have to counter punch

    I agree Ken, Joe will have to look her square in the eye because she is going out to land those soundbites and zingers on que.

    Gwen Ifil will have a lot to do with the direction , if Gwen mixes it up and follows up Sarah could slip.

    My prediction of major soundbite

    "Oh, Joe say it isn't so!?" ;)

    It will be very interesting to watch
     
    #18 YOUTUBECANBESAVED, Sep 29, 2008
  19. YOUTUBECANBESAVED

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    Hope people don't mind me digging out this post:pertinent for tonight

    Hope people don't mind me digging out this post:pertinent for tonight

    It looks like Governor Sarah Palin will win even if she loses.

    This is how I got there,

    Gwen Ifill

    It has become, how is Gwen Ifill going to treat Sarah Palin if she follows up and is strict on time then , Palins supporters will shout clear bias.

    If she throws her nerf balls like Katie Couric, without follow up then Palins people will take the win.

    Look for the soundbites new and improved coming out of Sarah Palins mouth.

    Another advantage for Sarah is no cross talk.

    Joe can still win but I give him a 33 percent chance, looks her square in the eye but goes after John McCain until it is a mantra, calls her honorable Governor but then quickly lights into John McCain.

    The only Zinger I can think he could use, is if Sarah Palin invokes Hillary.

    "With all due respect Governor, I know Hillary Clinton, I work with Hillary Clinton, and John McCain is no Hillary Clinton!" :laugh:

    It is all on Sarah to stop the bloodletting, Obama is soon to march through Georgia on his way to a Blue Florida, the eastern seaboard is turning blue, I look for Georgia to be a tossup soon but perhaps that will stop tonight.

    If you don't believe me check the polls.
     
    #19 YOUTUBECANBESAVED, Oct 2, 2008
  20. Gold Dragon

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    I wish Ms Palin the best in the debate. As I have stated before, I really liked her RNC speech and I hope she follows up with a good performance here.

    I think expectations are quite low after the Couric interview and it will be easy to blame Ifill for biased moderating. It will also be difficult for Biden to make points without looking like a bully if she stumbles. If I were Biden, I would try to say as little as possible and hope Palin digs herself into a hole.

    I think it will be difficult for Palin to lose this debate if she can avoid repeating herself too much and she should be more prepared than she was with Couric.
     
    #20 Gold Dragon, Oct 2, 2008
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