Featured Savior versus Sacrament

Like normal you pervert the words of scripture and my words. Here is your original charge:

"Yet Matthew 7:21-23 doesn't mention the Catholic Church does it" - WM

I responded that I never said it did, and I didn't as the terms "Catholic Church" are not found in the text.

You responded that I did make such a claim in response to Walter - which is a lie. Nowhere in my response to Walter did I say the "Catholic Church" is mentioned in Matthew 7 or anywhere else in scripture.

What I said is that the Roman Catholic "SYSTEM OF SALVATION" is condemned in Matthew 7:13-14,21-23 and it is!

You can't remember your own charge. You build a straw man and burn it and then blame others for your straw man imagination.

 

Originally Posted by The Biblicist
That is precisely my point! When I expose sacramentalism as a false doctrine I am exposing a false system of salvation embraced by the "many" of Matthew 7:13-14 whereas only the "few" really believe in salvation by grace.

Catholicism is the "Mother" of sacramentalism and those sacramentalists that historically have been derived from her. The Scriptures speak of only two opposing contrasts - justification by works versus grace and Catholicism is the consistent representative of the "works" position while Baptists are the consistent representative of the "grace" position.

Obviously your reading comprehension is not too good! I dare you even to find either the word "Catholic" or "church" in my statement much less a statement that says "the Catholic Church is found in Matthew 7:13-14; 21-23.

What I was addressing was "sacramentalism" as a "doctrine" and "SYSTEM OF SALVATION" is spelled out in these passages.

The only words that even came close to saying "Catholic" was my statement that "Catholocism is the 'Mother' of sacramentalism" and that "Catholocism is the consistent representative of the 'works' position."

However, I never said that the terms "Catholic church" were found in that passage and anyone reading these two paragraphs can easily see that. You are just hard pressed to find something since you can't defend the confession made by the "MANY" to be any different than the confession of Roman Catholics at judgment day in substance.

If you want to argue that by INFERENCE

 

There is no such thing as "the doctrine of faith alone." The doctrine expressed more fully is "justification by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone without works" or simply "justification by faith alone."

Don't substitute the term "salvation" and generalize it. We are talking specifically about the doctrine of justification of "the ungodly" (Rom. 4:5) "before God" (Rom. 4:1) rather than pragmatic justification of baptized beleiving church members or as James puts it "one of you" (James 2:16) before men "shew me.....shew you" (James 2:18).

 

The word "alone" does not have to be in the text if the context demands everything else is excluded but faith.

Romans 3:27-28 is an example
Romans 4:5-6 is an example
Romans 4:21 is an example

Just like the word "Trinity" does not have to be in a text if the context demands such a truth as in Matthew 28:19 for example.

 

Yes, lets be honest. The word "alone" does not have to be in a text if the context excludes everything else but faith as in the following texts in their context:

1. Rom. 3:27-28
2. Rom. 4:5-6
3. Rom. 4:21
4. Eph. 2:8-10
5. Gal. 3:10-12

Yes, lets be honest. The term "trinity" is not found in any text but the doctrine is certainly expressed without it in context.

BTW why do you call others names? "The false accusers"?

 

Go back and look at the post I was responding to! The basis of that post was that only in James was the words "faith only" can be found. My post was in response to that post and so we began with the inclusion of James but demonstrating that one need not the word "only" in a text if the context excluded everything else but faith.

 

The term "sacramentum" (musterion/musterium) is never once used in scripture in connection with or to describe baptism, the Lord's Supper, ordination or marriage.

The theology of sacramentalism is plainly and explicitly repudiated by scriptures (Lk. 5:12-15; Rom. 4:5-12; Eph. 2:8-10; Titus 3:5; Heb. 10:1-4; Acts 10:43; etc.).

However, it does characterize the Great Whore:

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.