SBC Backing Confederate Memorial removal

I want my church to pull out is how I feel. These people are being played by the left like mindless puppets. I have never seen smart people be so naive and foolish.

 

I think it is appropriate for local pastors to speak their convictions regarding local issues. What is reported here sounds reasonable.

However, the way the headline is written and the impression that some may have about the President of the SBC is that the President of the SBC sets doctrinal and social policy and speaks the official position of the Convention and its churches. That is not true at all.

 

I loved Steve Gaines in Lynyrd Skynyrd, but on this issue, he can kiss my fourth point of contact.

 

I am ok with Steve making a local decision like that. I personally could careless if the statue is there or not. But if the local church feels it should be removed, that is their call. I am not part of that community.

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I revise my comment. The statue should absolutely come down. The guy was a slave trader and he let his soldiers kill hundreds of black prisoners. KKK member and possible a Grand Wizard of the KKK. There is no good reason to leave his statue in comparison with the negative impact he had on society.

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Yeah, he was a pretty bad guy if all you know are the talking points. But,of course, it doesn't fit your narrative to point out that he's also the guy who called for the abolition of the Klan when he saw it turning into the white supremacist organization the Democrats turned it into.

 

The KKK was founded in Tennessee with the purpose of reversing Federal rights for the black community. That was the purpose from day 1. Dude was a slave trader. Can't hide that either.

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The year you are acting Prez, you forfeit the effective ability to speak only for yourself and your church.

 

Well, it was founded in Tennessee. At least you got that much right.

 

Historically laughable.

The slave trader part illuminates why removing CSA monuments is so dangerous. Most founders owned Slaves. The Constitution was a racist document because racist men wrote it. Racist men ratified it. The compromise to ratify it deemed slaves to be only 3/5th a man. All this uproar about statues is a directed slippery slope attack by the left on The Constitution. All you politically correct do gooders are falling hook, line, and sinker for it.

 

Two great podcasts out of SEBTS:

Southeastern Seminary - Diversity Podcast - Various topics assessed through the lens of race, class, and gender

E063 – Confederate Monuments and Racial Superiority (Part 1)
September 18th, 2017
Dr. Brent Aucoin, Dr. Walter Strickland and Maliek Blade

E064 – Confederate Monuments and Racial Superiority (Part 2)
September 18th, 2017
Diversity staffers

kingdomdiversity.sebts.edu

 

Nonsense. He is still the pastor of the church and can function as such. The SBC structure would not require, nor expect him to forfeit his calling as overseer of a local church in the community.

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Facts is facts. Everyone reporting the story is saying Southern Baptist President. The headlines are proof that he can't practically make that separation.

 

It should also be noted that the Stars and Stripes flew over slavery for roughly eighty years, while the Confederate flag flew for less than five. Likewise, it was the Stars and Stripes that flew over Jim Crow laws, segregation, lynching, and was, and is, the flag the Klu Klux Klan claims as it's official banner. And yet, they don't want it removed.

 

Everyone that I have seen says "Southern Baptist Convention President". If the media is trying to mislead by dropping off "convention" that is on them, not him. If people cannot understand "convention", that is on them, not him.

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Not yet

They don't want it removed yet. It lies much further down the slippery slope.

 

Has nothing to do with the war. It has to do with the man. If it was Lee or Davis a better argument could be made for keeping the statue. But a man that encouraged, allowed or was unable to keep his soldiers from killing unarmed prisoners(prisoners killed only because they were black) is not worthy of a statue.


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