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Scalia: You need 4 votes for Obama eligibility case

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell Well-Known Member

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    .............She then bought Scalia's book and waited in line to get it autographed.

    "I gave him the books to sign and asked, 'Tell me what to do, what can I do, those soldiers [her plaintiffs] can be court-martialed for asking a legitimate question, who is the president, is he legitimate.' He said, 'Bring the case, I'll hear it, I don't know about others.'"

    Taitz' latest effort is a case of Quo Warranto submitted to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

    The legal phrase essentially means an explanation is being demanded for what authority Obama is using to act as president. An online constitutional resource says Quo Warranto "affords the only judicial remedy for violations of the Constitution by public officials and agents."

    The plaintiffs allege Obama failed to submit prima facie evidence of his qualifications before Jan. 20, 2009.

    "Election officers failed to challenge, validate or evaluate his qualifications. Relators submit that as president elect, Respondent Obama failed [tO] qualify per U.S. CONST. Amend. XX [paragraph] 3," the document said.

    John Eidsmoe, an expert on the U.S. Constitution working with the Foundation on Moral Law, said the demand is a legitimate course of action.

    "She basically is asking, 'By what authority' is Obama president," he told WND. "In other words, 'I want you to tell me by what authority. I don't really think you should hold the office.'".....


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  2. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    To follow up: American concerned about Mr. Obama's eligibility can write, email, or call US Attorney General Eric Holder's office and ask him to relate the Quo Warranto (what was already filed with the AG), in other words, ask the AG to act upon it!

    Wording can be something like this:

    "I respectfully request that you relate Quo Warranto on Barack Hussein Obama II to test his title to president before the Supreme Court. I, along with thousands of my fellow American citizen, would like an explanation from him as to what authority Barack Obama is using to act as president. He has never proved his qualifications or validated them in a publically official manner.

    As president-elect, Respondent Obama failed to submit prima facie evidence of his qualifications before January 20, 2009. Election officers failed to challenge, validate or evaluate his qualifications. As president elect, Respondent Obama failed to qualify per U.S. Constitution Amend. XX [paragraph] 3.

    Again, I respectfully request that you relate the Quo Warranto on Barack Hussein Obama."

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  3. SeekingTruth

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    LE, do you really think that Holder is going to act on the document? IMHO the only action he will take will be to give it to the lowest rated typist in the DoJ for immediate filing in the trash.
     
  4. JustChristian

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    Since nothing happened on these cases before Obama was elected President nothing will be done afterwards. Accept reality. Obama is president of the United States.
     
  5. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member

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    Much as I hate to admit it, I agree with JC here!:tear::tear::tear::tear:
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    JC is correct. Obama is the President. Anything else is just wishful thinking by the losing side.

    Just assume for a minute you could prove that Obama was born in Kenya, Moscow, Tehran, or Sydney. Still wouldn't matter. His mother was a US citizen, thus HE is a natural born citizen. This entire business is just background noise. If you assume that for some reason he was ineligible and it could be proven, it could trigger a Constitutional crisis. However, I would imagine that VP Biden would ascend to the Presidency and life would go on.
     
  7. LeBuick

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    By popular and electoral vote after proving his qualifications satisfactorily to the election commission. Same authority the other 42 presidents had.
     
  8. billwald

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    If Obama is excommunicated then Whatshisname the VP becomes president and Nancy from California is next in line. That make you all happy?
     
  9. windcatcher

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    The only advantage of not having Obama in office is that no one else qualifies to read the teleprompter so convincingly like he does.
     
  10. LeBuick

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    :laugh: :laugh: Way to keep Obama in office, threaten them with Nancy and the gaff machine...
     
  11. BigBossman

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    I'll send the message to him via snail mail. I feel that I am generally more effective in this manner. However, I doubt that Holder will even remotely consider to look into this. After all, his boss gave him his job, its not like he's going to boot him out. Besides, if another president were to take over, he could lose his job.
     
  12. EdSutton

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    Some previously suggested the potential succession of Vice President 'Dick' Cheney, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was the best reason to pray for the continued good health of former President George W. Bush.

    Likewise, the spectre of Vice Presidents Richard Agnew, Walter Mondale, Dan Quayle, Al Gore and Speakers Tip O'Neill, Jim Wright, Tom Foley, and Newt Gingrich were among the best reasons to pray for the continued good health of some former Presidents, including Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and 'Bill' Clinton.

    Amazingly, somehow former VP George H.W. Bush, and former Speakers John McCormick, Carl Albert and Dennis Hastert did not seem to carry as much negative opinion, of some of the others, above, who held those offices. Wonder why?? :confused: :rolleyes:

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  13. LadyEagle

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    Chief Justice Roberts responded to a lady from Cali by saying if you have indisputable proof he was not born in the US get it to him and he'll take a look. The implication was there will otherwise be no case just to make him present his BC. That is flagrant discrimination unless we go back and make the previous 42 presidents do likewise.

    I believe I like his attitude. He is basically saying put up or shut up. The burden of proof is on the ones who believe he isn't qualified and not on Obama. He has provided what every other president to this day has provided so if it was good enough for them it has to likewise be good enough for him or it is blatant discrimination.
     
  15. Pastor Larry

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    Roberts is wrong on this.

    That's nonsense. None of the other 42 are president, and there were no serious challenges to them so far as I know.

    Discrimination is one of the silliest, most overused arguments today. We need to do away with it in most cases. Using "discrimination" for a case like this cheapens it. It is like the boy who cried Wolf.
     
  16. LeBuick

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    So why pick the black guy to decide we need more proof? Sounds like discrimination to me???
     
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    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    Because he hasn't proved his eligibility. Sounds like reverse discrimination to me - he thinks he is above the law/constitution.
     
  18. LeBuick

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    He provided what the other 42 provided. Asking him to provide more is discrimination.

    The people asking more of him than the other 42 think they can make law and are discriminating against him not to mention violating his civil rights.
     
  19. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    And you know what 42 others provided? Links please.

    Otherwise, it is a case of reverse discrimination by someone who believes they are above the law/constitution. Everyone else has to show original birth certificates at points in their lives--for school registration, social security, medicare, marriage licenses, etc., so why is the first black president above the law? Because he is black? :sleep:
     
  20. Pastor Larry

    Pastor Larry <b>Moderator</b>

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    Because there were obscure issues with him. So far as I know, no one seriously questioned the citizenship or birth status of anyone else. Do you know of any other examples like this one?

    You fail to note that Obama could have easily cleared this up many many time and taken the ammo out of their hands. He didn't, for some strange reason. I am inclined to think it is his immaturity combined with his poor choice of counselors to surround himself with. I don't think it is because he is not a citizen. He just shows bad judgment time and time again, and it keeps coming up.

    You need to get your hearing checked.

    In this, you are kind of like the guy speeding who tells the cop, "You didn't stop the three people I was following." It doesn't matter whether they were stopped or not. The fact is that this guy was speeding.
     
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