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Featured Scary moment as craxy man storms the pulpit at John MacArthur's church

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by JohnDeereFan, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. wpe3bql

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    A former pastor of mine who's now with the Lord would often tell his flock that when they're confronted with a person who claims to have a "new revelation from God" that he/she needs to write down this "new revelation from God," and then glue it to his/her Bible and then loudly proclaim that Revelation 22:18-19 is completely false because God just gave him/her "a new revelation," thus NOW his/her Bible is complete!

    That pastor had no takers on that.

    He never figured out why because if a person really had "a new revelation from God," then God would gladly approve of that person adding to his/her Bible what He revealed to him/her. :smilewinkgrin:

    (This is WPE3BQL's 666th BB post! I wonder if I should hurry to 1600 PA Ave. and see if our current POTUS will approve of this 666th BB post....assuming he does have the authority to approve of this post.)
     
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  2. PreachTony

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    I think one of the bigger issues being glossed over seemingly here, and pointed out in the youtube comments, is that MacArthur changed the wording that the man used, making the man seem more radical than he was. Mac was accused of being "in error" concerning cessation. Once the accuser was removed, Mac spoke to the congregation and told them that the man had called cessationism "heresy."

    The man never called MacArthur's doctrine heresy. I don't know if Mac just misspoke, or if he fell victim to the classic trap we all fall into from time to time, in which we think some disagreeing with us means they think we are heretics.
     
  3. OnlyaSinner

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    After the first few seconds, in which I heard "error" but not "heresy", I could no longer make out what the man was shouting. Perhaps the "h" word was part of the shouting later on - cannot tell, but I'd be cautious about stating that JM changed a word when we could not hear clearly all that was said. Your larger point is right on target, however.

    And thanks to ITL for the more complete video. Perhaps the humor was intended more as a stress outlet for an adrenaline-filled congregation rather than a mockery of the intruder.
     
  4. InTheLight

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    That's how I interpreted the joking. The crowd was relieving tension.

    If you look at the first video posted, as the "prophet" is being escorted out, you can see a closeup shot of a woman crying.
     
  5. PreachTony

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    The man's thick Scottish accent makes some of what he said hard to understand, but I never heard him say "heresy." He did clearly say that MacArthur was in error. But Mac is the one who started saying "heresy."
     
  6. Paco

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    I never heard the man claim to be a prophet. He did state very clearly that God had sent him to tell Mr Mac that his doctrine was in error. Mac added "heresy" in his explanation to the crowd of what the man was saying.

    Perhaps God really did send this man to give MacArthur a serious warning ....

    God does at time speak to people in strange and mysterious ways.

    For the record, I too believe that MacArthur is in error, however, this man was out of order to confront him this way during a church service.

    The sad thing to me is that MacArthur was so dismissive of the entire event and was quick to make fun of it.
     
  7. InTheLight

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    At the 15-17 second mark of the video:

    "You don't believe in prophets; you're looking at one."
     
  8. Paco

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    OK, .... I could not distinguish that when I heard it. .... It isn't worth the trouble to me to go back and re-listen to it.

    I do believe, as the Bible states, that God "set" prophets in His church, and there is no record of Him ever withdrawing them. However, ... there are many self-appointed prophets around, as well as pretenders who claim to be pastors and evangelists too.

    I do feel that he was out of line, out of order to have this confrontation during a worship service.
     
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