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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Use of Time

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    That's what I thought the issue was but you mentioned the Declaration of Independence which confused me a little. Regardless, it was fleshed out more in the thread. I'm with ya.
     
  2. InTheLight

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    Like a lot of things in the Bible, there are verses that support both our views.


    Their God-given right? To go to Hell, like you said.
     
  3. InTheLight

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    Back to the OP....it seems the God-given rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, according to the Declaration of Independence, and the proof is that the Declaration of Independence says so. That's circular reasoning.
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    Who said that?
     
  5. InTheLight

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    You did, here:

     
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  7. InTheLight

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    Verses in Psalms only say that God creates life. Verse in Leviticus says that man does not has a right to live if he takes life.

    The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Job 1:21

    Verse is a reference to Isaiah 61:1-2. Jesus is saying that salvation will come through him and hope to the oppressed and sick. Not that everyone has an inherent right to be free from kings (which is the intent of the clause in the Declaration.)

    1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority,
    Too bad those verses don't say that God has given us the right to pursue happiness. They say that true happiness will be found in the Lord.
     
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    I agree. It's what happens when people who don't read the Bible build laws upon it.
     
  9. poncho

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    Wonder how it would effect this debate if we changed the wording in the first sentence?

    Let's say we replace the words "God-given freedoms" with the words "unalieanable rights".

    The first sentence would then read . . .

    Unalieanable rights are in fact "special privileges" granted by the state, says handout"

    Would the arguments change?
     
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    democrats been preaching and practicing that since the days of FDR!
     
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    The Right to Life in this country was taken away by "Seven Black Robed Men" in 1973 and that abominable act has been enthusiastically championed and even celebrated by the democrat party. 55,000,000 babies slaughtered in the most unsafe place in the world: A woman's womb. The chance of surviving there is only about 65%. May God grant these people their just deserts!
     
  12. poncho

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    In the first draft of the Declaration Of Independence Jefferson wrote

    “We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable; that all Men are created equal and independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent and unalienable, among which are the preservation of life, and liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/ruffdrft.html
     
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