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Screen projections

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Alcott, Feb 4, 2009.

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  1. All musical lyrics—although we do have hymnals

    12 vote(s)
    48.0%
  2. All musical lyrics—and we do not have hymnals

    7 vote(s)
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  3. Of musical lyrics, only for songs not in the hymnals

    1 vote(s)
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  4. Scripture texts

    16 vote(s)
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  5. Any scripture quoted or referenced

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  6. Responsive readings

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  7. Major announcements

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  8. Names of new members

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  9. Names and photos of new members

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  10. We do not use projections for anything

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  1. tinytim

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    OH>. Bitsy!!

    (shhh.. since she is sooo old, and can't see good, if we are quiet... she can't find us to whomp us one)....shhhh...

    (tiny hiding in projection room)
     
  2. Jim1999

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    I wonder if those churches which have gone the picture show route include a newsreel part way through. The pictures used to also play a cartoon before the main picture.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    PS. I have since switched to plastic frames now..Cheaper and less sinful!
     
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  3. rbell

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    Good grief.

    Show me, Scripturally, where it's wrong.

    I'm hoping I just misread a sarcastic post.
     
  4. rbell

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    Jim,

    Do you regularly make it a practice of ridiculing worship of other churches?
     
  5. Jim1999

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    Only those making a mockery of worship.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  6. rbell

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    So...projecting the lyrics of a hymn on a screen is a "mockery of worship?"
     
  7. just-want-peace

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    I wonder how much more accurate, if at all, the comments would be?

    I never cease to be amazed how wonderful the deceased was, and wonder why such a beacon of light escaped my notice while alive.
    Doesn't surprise me when some hidden things come to light, but the every day Joe/Jane being "canonized" just ain't usually the one I knew. One almost expects the world to turn at half-speed in honor of ---.

    Oh well, I guess I just ain't big on pomp & circumstance - in any setting!
     
  8. annsni

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    Yeah - that?????
     
  9. Joshua Rhodes

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    Several of our older members told me once that they balked at the screens use at first. But now, the words are large enough to read, the heads are up in worship, and they don't have to worry about whether or not they'll be able to participate. We do a mix of styles and ages of songs and hymns, so at least that doesn't seem to be an issue.
     
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    Projections? That is so twentieth century!
    At Trendy Church, we just installed individual pew-back screens.
     
  11. annsni

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    with the wireless network for headphones and laptops?
     
  12. rbell

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    Thanks for the correction, guys.

    I was mistakenly under the assumption that God was capable of blessing our worship since we sung hymns and choruses that honored Him.

    However, I forgot that He does not accept such worship unless it comes from a book held by the worshipper.

    Forgive me for not consulting some of you on how God operates. Thanks for being such an authority.

    Sheesh.

    I guess our church is really screwed up, since we not only project words but also make hymnals available. We must be Laodicean, huh?
     
  13. FriendofSpurgeon

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    That's the way I was (though I hesitate to put myself in the category of "older members"). Our prior church's service was very traditional -- think Coral Ridge if you ever saw D James Kennedy on a Sunday morning before he passed away. In any event, I thought it would be a tough transition for me and it really wasn't.
     
  14. Jim1999

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    Just glad I am at the end of the trail and don't pastor anymore. The church I do attend is more traditional in morning and I never attend in evening. Don't go out after dark.

    The rest of the time I attend the local Anglican church and there is no problem with it remaining traditional, except they went to the new Prayer Book and I dislike it. I just sit quietly and take in the sermon.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    I really don't care how you go to church. I still don't like jazz bands in church.
     
  15. rbell

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    What on earth are you talking about?

    We use a screen in our traditional service: piano, organ, choir, the whole bit. Not one clarinet in the bunch.

    What does projected words of hymns on a screen have to do with "jazz bands?"

    :confused:

    Good grief. It's words on a screen, man.
     
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    I cannot stand the praise choruses they use at my Mother-in-Law's church. They have the words on the screen. Singing out of a hymnal teaches one to read music. I am a bass singer, and there is no room for me in those choruses to harmonize. It drives me up a wall. I much prefer the Fannie Crosby & Isaac Watts songs at our Cowboy Gatherings, with the four parts written out, and room for everyone.

    I'm with you on this one, Jim.

    I would have liked to learn the "shape note singing" that went on in the Appalachian churches, where folks like Bill Monroe & Ralph Stanley learned to sing Gospel music.
     
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  17. rbell

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    And as I said (in this thread, or maybe it was another)...that is a valid criticism of projected words. There is no doubt that our culture is much less musically accomplished than its predecessors. Harmonizing of any kind is rare nowadays.
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    If our song is in our hymnals, we put the hymn # on the screen, and announce it. A few folks capitalize on that. Good for them.
     
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    "wee hould that seeing singinging a psalme is a part of spirituall worship therefore it is vnlawfull to have the booke before the eye in time of singinge a psalme" ---John Smyth, Differences of the Churches of the Separation, 1608
     
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    I've turned to the dark side

    I really prefer the old traditional way - singing old hymns out of a hymnal.

    However, the church we attend now has "contemporary" music and projects the words up on a screen. I don't recall ever seeing a hymnal there.

    A few months back I was asked to fill in on electric bass on the Sundays that I am able to attend and, even though I prefer the old stuff and am not familiar with the genre very much, I saw it as an opportunity to serve. And I must admit that I do enjoy it.

    I told my wife I've turned to the dark side.
     
  20. Joshua Rhodes

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    We announce and project the number of hymns from the hymnal. But they don't reprint hymnals fast enough for the same reason people don't buy them anymore. It's not cost effective. I'm sorry, our hymnal is OK, and has lots of good songs in it, but there have been great songs written and put into use since 1986. In fact, I've written a few that we use in worship. I'm not Isaac Watts, but alot of my "contemporary" songs have 4-part harmony and I'm thankful for the chance to use them in our church.

    I agree with you somewhat Curtis. As a musician, I would love to see the return of part singing in worship services. It's beautiful. But even at unison, I believe God loves the sound of a heart worshipping Him.

    So yes, we project words and have hymnals available. I personally don't use the hymnal when I stand in the congregation because I don't like flipping pages and missing words. But that's a personal preference, just like Jim's "no light show or jazz band" policy.
     
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