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Scripture to support KJVOism please

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by David J, Sep 3, 2004.

  1. AVL1984

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    The only problem is, C4K, is that Michelle isn't addressing the underlying texts issue, especially concerning the Johannine Comma. There is little proof that it was in the originals. Michelle has continued to misrepresent what has been "left out", which the ones she mentions are all in the footnotes with notation in the readings of such. This is a clear intentional misrepresentation on her part. The KJV has footnotes on several verses with alternate words or readings in some cases, and it's funny how she won't address that, nor the question concerning which version of the kjVERSION is the pure Word of God, preserved, etc. I've asked several times, but she has avoided the question.

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  2. michelle

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    Now it is the turn of the other side to show which words the KJV "left out".

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    And here is the scriptural support for the scriptures that we hold in our hands today, and for generations even prior to the counterfits:

    1 Tim. 3

    14. These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:
    15. But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
    16. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Great passage michelle - what does it have to do with this thread?

    O wait - if I understood I would understand.

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  4. AVL1984

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    Michelle, what exactly does this prove? Nothing. The NIV preaches the same thing, as does the NASB. So, they are the Word of God, too. You still haven't answered which version of the kjVERSION is the Word of God, the 1611? The 1769? Another of the revisions? The Cambridge? The Oxford? Which? Please answer the questions.

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    Typical, circular kjVERSION ONLY tactics. No proof, so like a drone they quote scripture that in their mind supports their position. The sad part is that it doesn't. It just goes to prove they have no answer for the questions.

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  6. michelle

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    The only problem is, C4K, is that Michelle isn't addressing the underlying texts issue, especially concerning the Johannine Comma. There is little proof that it was in the originals. Michelle has continued to misrepresent what has been "left out", which the ones she mentions are all in the footnotes with notation in the readings of such. This is a clear intentional misrepresentation on her part. The KJV has footnotes on several verses with alternate words or readings in some cases, and it's funny how she won't address that, nor the question concerning which version of the kjVERSION is the pure Word of God, preserved, etc. I've asked several times, but she has avoided the question.

    AVL1984
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    Here is scripural support for the words of God, the scriptures being preserved by GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF:

    Psalms 12

    1. Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.
    2. They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
    3. The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:
    4. Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?
    5. For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.
    6. The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
    7. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever
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    8. The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.

    Proverbs 30

    1. The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal,
    2. Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man.
    3. I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.
    4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
    5. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
    6. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar
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    Also read the entirety of Psalm 119.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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    Again, Michelle, how does this prove your point? :confused: Just printing out the verses proves nothing. I can do the same from the NIV, NASB, etc. :eek: You're using circular reasoning posting no proof. It's time to quit misrepresenting what Ps. 12 says and post true proof. It is not talking about the Word of God here, it is talking about the perfect man.

    Prov 30 doesn't even begin to prove your point. Neither does Ps 119.

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  8. michelle

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    Michelle, what exactly does this prove? Nothing. The NIV preaches the same thing, as does the NASB. So, they are the Word of God, too. You still haven't answered which version of the kjVERSION is the Word of God, the 1611? The 1769? Another of the revisions? The Cambridge? The Oxford? Which? Please answer the questions.

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    This proves everything. The evidence is right before your very eyes, and that was only a small part of it. Please provide scriptural support that God would allow errors/alterations/omittions to the scriptures? I have another one for you:

    John 10

    3. The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
    34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
    35. If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
    36. Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
    37. If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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  9. michelle

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    Again, Michelle, how does this prove your point? Just printing out the verses proves nothing.
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    Yes. You are sadly correct, because those who the scriptures are given to do not make any attempt to understand them.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
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    Michelle, again, you are posting a long spout of KJV scripture which proves nothing of the point. Please either post proof, VALID proof (and no I'm not saying the Bible is not valid), that backs up your position, because what you're putting forth isn't doing it. By the way, you still haven't answered which version of the version????

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    Michelle, again, you are posting a long spout of KJV scripture which proves nothing of the point. Please either post proof, VALID proof (and no I'm not saying the Bible is not valid), that backs up your position, because what you're putting forth isn't doing it. By the way, you still haven't answered which version of the version????
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    Ditto my above post.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
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    You continue to state "errors, omissions,alterations" of scriptures without addressing the FACT that the MV's are accurate to their underlying texts. Get real, michelle.

    The MV's are just as valid as the kjVERSION. If you had six people at one party, you would not get the total, complete story exactly the same out of all of them. You're reasoning, if I'm following you correctly, is that everyone would be a mindless drone, telling the same story word for word. This isn't even close to what would happen, as it doesn't even happen in the Gospels in the kjVERSION when the Apostles are reciting stories of what Jesus said, etc.

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    Typical of someone who has no answer. Thanks for proving the MV's point.

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    I'm closing this thread as soon as it gets to page 5.

    Round and round the mulberry bush...
     
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    Yes, C4K...some people's circular reasoning just doesn't make sense.

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    Thank you so much, sis, for posting those lovely words of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. I could read them all day long and never tire from it. I never mind reading what God hath said; it's just as fresh to me today as it was over 50 years ago when He saved my wretched soul.
     
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    Your welcome sis! I love them also, and they are the scriptures that allow us to even know our Lord Jesus Christ, and to love Him and His words of truth. Praise our Lord Jesus Christ for all He has given and done for us.


    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
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    Well, praise the Lord, GG! I was saved over 21 years ago in Bible college. I the one who led me to the Lord use the NKJV. ;) That's what I had at MBBC. Still God's Word, hallelujah!

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    Aren't we on page five yet???? LOL

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  20. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Whew! That's shouting grounds Granny - Amen and Amen!!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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