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Secession Movement Explodes

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. Salty

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    What did I miss - did Obama require a 15% cut in pay?
     
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    Very well said S/N. Work is definitely more than pay. In my opinion a man that is able to work and won't is not worth a "tinker's dam"! The Apostle Paul had some words to say about such!
     
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    A very good list of why's! The simplest answer to most of the questions is that the Federal government, all three branches, have ignored the 10th amendment and the states have acqueised or joyfully supported the Feds.

    A second answer is that posted by "mont974x4" some days back:

    And then there is this also by "mont974x4".

     
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    I agree. Jefferson also said something about central banks and the corporations that grow up around them. Which has happened. So we have two of Jefferson's predictions that have come to pass but we accept the one and deny the other even though the bankers and even the corporate media admit that we now work for the bankers.

    How is it possible to miss what is so obvious? To deny the obvious makes no sense at all to me. To ridicule someone for pointing it out makes no sense to me.

    How can so many people fail to see what's right in front of them? If it were a snake it bite them. I take that back it is a snake and it has bitten them yet they take no notice. I just don't get it.
     
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    In my whole life, the longest I have been out of work since I graduated is two weeks during which The Wife made enough to pay the bills.
     
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    http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-the-founders-believed-in-secession/
     
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    The problem is that our country has been overrun with too many people who do not hold the values that our country was built upon. They never experienced the tyranny of England and don't know that perspective enough to appreciate the freedom that they are given.

    It's a sad thing to see people trade it away.

    Few if any of these Presidents or Congressmen or progressives today would have gotten on the boat to come over here (except Ron Paul). Yet, here they are 200 years later mooching off of a free nation and seeking to enslave it's people all over again.

    A few quotes from our grandparents:
    "But the indissoluble link of union between the people of the several States of this confederated nation is, after all, not in the RIGHT, but in the HEART. If the day should ever come (may Heaven avert it !) when the affections of the people of these States shall be alienated from each other, when the fraternal spirit shall give way to cold indifference, or collision of interests shall fester into hatred, the bonds of political association - will not long hold together parties no longer attracted by the magnetism of conciliated interests and kindly sympathies ; and far better will it be for the people of the disunited States to part in friendship with each other than to be held together by constraint. Then will be the time for reverting to the precedents which occurred at the formation and adoption of the Constitution, to form again a more perfect Union, by dissolving that which could no longer bind, and to leave the separated parts to be reunited by the law of political gravitation to the center." - John Quincy Adams

    “If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation … to a continuance in the union …. I have no hesitation in saying, ‘Let us separate.’” - Thomas Jefferson

    Blessings
     
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    Exactly right.
     
  9. Eric B

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    How about to keep everyone so focused on one side or the other, as they point back and forth, that no one sees what's really going on behind the scenes?
     
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    Exactly right Eric. I call it "gaming the sheople". And as you can probably tell there are still some sheople who so enjoy being part of the game they flatly refuse to see beyond the puppets and will even go so far as to break BB rules (#5) just to call those who do names and question our "loyalty" whenever we get close to breaking through the barrier of deception.

    They aren't about to admit they are wrong and can't stand the thought of other sheople turning into people and leaving them behind with egg on their face. The numbers of sheople even here on BB are starting to decline. Cracks are beginning to appear in their dearly held false paradigm and it frightens them so they lash out at any threat that might expose the gamer's for what they really are. :thumbsup:

    I still wonder why certain people here are allowed to break posting rule number 5 with impunity. :confused:
     
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    Read rules? Know rules by numbers? You gots to be kidding!

    Old joke about the inmates in a cell block heard the same jokes so many times they numbered the jokes. . . .
     
  12. poncho

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    We all agreed to abide by the posting rules here and most make a solid effort to do just that and at least attempt to keep it at a certain lower level of bickerig and badgering back and forth but a few here choose to disregard the rules completely and aggressively pursue their "prey" all over the board disrupting other discussions whenever it suits their fancy and usually they are the same people who demand others follow their preferred set of beliefs and only their preferred set of beliefs.

    Evidently these people feel they can take it upon themselves whenever they wish to chastise and ridicule others aggressively in open forums who do not conform to their own ideology and beliefs.

    And usually these are the same people who have often rebuked others for not strictly adhering to long held "American values", such as questioning the authorities and speaking out against tyranny whenever another poster attempts to make use of long held "American values" by questioning authority or speaking out against tyranny.

    Now I assume there will be those who will call me a hypocrite and a rule breaker for writing this and posting it and they'd be right. But I have recently concluded that if others here are allowed to act like hypocrites and flagrantly break the rules whenever they please everyone should be able to do the same.
     
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