Seen by the Twelve?

Matthias saw Christ after he rose again, and, at the time this was written, Matthias was one of the twelve.

(Just a thought)

 

Acts 1:21-23 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.

 

matthias was not one of the twelve. if you keep reading throughout the NT - God did not accept matthias as one of the twelve because God was not the one who chose hom. again if you keep reading it ends up being Paul that the Lord chose.

 

Hello Gekko,
what scripture are you referring to that says that God did not accept Matthias? As I read Acts 1:15 thru 1:26 it certainly seems to say that God did accept Matthias referring to prophecy being fulfilled in verse 20. Was not Paul the apostle to the gentiles?
Blessings

 

If the "group" was the focus then it would have been stated as such or the number 10 would have been used not the number 12.

I think, having not really studied the matter out in great detail, Blammo's explanation is probably the best.

Gekko God never tells us that He didn't accept Matthias. He was selected from among two men by casting lots, which was a way for God to do the choosing at that time.

We have no indication that God was displeased with what went on.

 

Scarlett O. I'm not exactly sure as the to the purpose of the number 12 precisely as I said I haven't studied out the matter in great detail, but with that being said the number 12 has to do with governmental perfection and it seems as though 12 was used to show that God's system was not damaged by the loss of Judas as there were still 12 apostles although one was a newly appointed one.

It shows that those 12, as you say a complete group, still had a mission and that was spreading the word of the kingdom just as they were instructed to do, and that could be done with the 12 just as God had wanted there to be.

I know that doesn't give much detail, but that seems to be the case as the message of the kingdom is the context throughout much of Acts, especially through the first 10-11 chapters I believe.

Then you start to get into the kingdom message being delievered to the Gentiles, which has an extra step in it and you start to see the transition from a Jew only to Jew first to whoever will listen and accept the message.

 

All's I say is there will be 12 foundations to the new city. One for each of the disciples. Either Paul or Mathias won't be in the number. Now if I had to choose, I think Mathias is out.

I still say this was a case of man feeling God was moving too slow or that he was late so we do his work for him. This happens a lot. We pray then move and God is supposed to ordain what we do...

 

This would seem to be an admission of Paul that Matthias was the 12th apostle, not that anyone in his day would have thought he was the 12th.

 

Nice one...

Look closely and there maybe 13

God is Spirit.

There were many Apostles, Apollos for eg. James the brother of the Lord later basically ran the Church in Jerusalem, chill out, we are on a winner.

It's all about beginnings, the reception of the Spirit and how we respond... God assigns faith as He wishes.

It's all about fruit.