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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by NomadsWife, Aug 29, 2004.

  1. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

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    In regards to pedophilia, nearly all are men. Not all, but most.

    In regards to Mary Kay LeTourneau, btw, she was not a pedophile. She was a statutory rapist. She had unlawful sex with a minor. Pedophelia is sex with a child. (typically, the cutoff is at age 14). Of note, btw, it's while female pedophiles are rare, females guilty of unlawful sex with a minor (14 to 17) are more common, though still considerably less than men.
     
  2. delly

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    I know there are women pedohiles and if I had small children, I would not want them around a pedophile; male or female. I don't know how many here have been molested and I did specify that unless you have been on the receiving end, you don't know. I'm sure there are many here who do know what I'm talking about and if they don't want to talk about it, that's fine. Those of you who don't know shouldn't call anyone names just because they don't want to be around these people. You never know what some have been through and to tell someone they aren't doing God's will by not going to to a pedophile's house is judgemental and, in some cases, just plain cruel. Being abused in any way is very traumatic and life changing and stays with a person all their life. It is a very hard thing to overcome, even when we are Christians. There is a pain and a fear inside that continually affects every decision we make. It's very hard to forgive someone who has abused or victimized us or our children. Even when we do forgive, healing is a long process.
    I have forgiven my abuser, but I won't put myself in a position to ever be abused again if there is any way to avoid it.
     
  3. Gina B

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    Diane, it's not the homeless although there was one the other week, it's a ministry mostly dealing with newly released offenders. Bible studies, half way homes, etc.. are provided. And...I do have direct contact although usually not alone. And yes, that includes sex offenders. In fact one of them usually helps me out in the kitchen with the small stuff. [​IMG]
    Still, I would never go to their homes. I am in an environment where it's safe, if anyone were to try anything, there's plenty of people around that would help out. That's one of the benefits of befriending murderers and such, they get really protective of their friends. KIDDING! Little bit of prison ministry humor. :D
    Gina
     
  4. Baptist in Richmond

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    <rim shot sound effect>

    That was SO BAD.
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I had an absolutely DREADFUL day (I am sure you have see Richmond on the news by now) and when I read this I started laughing for the first time today. Thank you so much!!

    May God bless you and your Ministry!

    Hope this post finds you well,

    BiR
     
  5. Gina B

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    Glad I could float a grin your way. ;)
    Gina
     
  6. Joshua Rhodes

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    So what was the site for the offender's list?
     
  7. Johnv

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    Generally, you need to make an appt with your local law enforcement agency to view the site. Also, you cannot look up a specific name. You can only look up your address, and it will give you a list of any registerd offenders in a specific radius to your home.

    The registered sex offender's list is not available on the web.
     
  8. DavidsAngel

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    7 [B/]

    1- Judge not, that ye be not judged.

    2- For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    3- And why beholdest though the mote that is in the brothers's eye, but considerest not the beam that is n thine own eye.

    4- Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull outthe mote out of thine eye. .

    Matthew 7: 1-6


    About 5% of child molesters/sex offenders want to change thier life. that is a low number. But, the thing is this, 5% are trying to live right. 5% want more from thier life than the label that they gave themselves at one time. I have hope that each one will come to know Christ as thier personal savior. Realize that he died for all of us. And, thier life dosen't have to stay hopless forever.
     
  9. Johnv

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    DA, are you saying that we should treat a sex offender as though he/she has done nothing wrong? Refraining from judging(matt 7:1) has nothing to do with that.
     
  10. dianetavegia

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  11. DavidsAngel

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    No John i'm not saying that. What I am saying is be cautious but don't pre judge, afterall we've all made mistakes Big or small, we've all made them. My point is Some people are trying to change thier lives, others aren't.

    What i'm saying is don't think they are all that way. Because every person is diffrent.
     
  12. DavidsAngel

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    Thanks Diane for that link. I have several that live in this town -sighs- and 2 in close proximity to me. Makes you cautious about your kids.
     
  13. Gina B

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    There is a statistics site but my acrobat reader won't work.

    Here where I live, we get a phone call if an offender moves near us. They give the offender's full name and physical description, along with their address.

    In Ohio you CAN look up offenders by name online, and it tells you their release date, or if they're still in prison, their sentencing info, prison id number, etc..

    Gina
     
  14. Johnv

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    Thanks, Diane for correcting me politely. Megan's Law, here in CA, has different procedures than other states. Diane is correct. Every state is different. I was blindly referring to CA's procedure, forgetting that there are 49 other states, and a handful of terriroties and protectorates, out there. If you're not sure about your own state, contact your local law enforcement agency, or your district attorney's office.
     
  15. Johnv

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    I don't think anyone here disagrees with you. But, remember, when a person commits a wrongdoing, refraining from judgement does not equate to ignoring the wrongdoing. If a friend borrows money from you and doesn't pay you back, I'm not likely to loan him money if he asks me. If a person has bad credit, I'm not likely to rent a room in my house to him. If a person has a criminal history as a sex offender, I'm not going to let my children near him. None of those actions is prejudging, but they're all results of wrongdoing that the person must live with.

    Certainly. But living a Christian life teaches us that we must take responsibility for our actions.

    Which in no way absolves a person of their past actions.
    A noble sentiment, but if a friend of mine has conquered alcoholism, I won't take him to a bar. Likewise, if a friend of mine has conquered a sin of pedophilia, I won't allow him around my kids.
     
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    I think that it would be a good idea to post every persons picture and address who has aids since one of our children might get it from them. Also post every woman who ever had sex with a married man since she might try and get our husbands. Also every person who has had sex with a married woman because they might get our wives. This is all a bunch of which hunters. if there was real love for the Lord there would be prayer for these people as well as going by and inviting them over. Now you can post all your excuses.
     
  17. Gina B

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    FreeAtLast, we're obviously not going to agree that going to a known sex offenders house is a good and Godly way to behave.
    So, how are you today? Did you go to church tonight? What did you learn? If not, did you have a good day otherwise?
    Gina
     
  18. dianetavegia

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    I went to church tonight! We had 22 children in AWANA but it was in the middle of some horrible lightening storms. PTL... I was able to grab 2 moms and 1 father to help us and many of our little ones knew their verses! The Dad was a listener and he had tears in his eyes hearing these brand new 3 year olds quoting scripture.

    Diane
     
  19. DavidsAngel

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    JohnV As usual I agree with you, sometimes my points are too broad. And, not to the fine tip what I want to say. I would never let someone who I knew to be convicted of a sex crime around my children. I feel like i'm judging that person to say it but, I cannot help it.
     
  20. Johnv

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    Heh???? I think you have a poor understanding of how HIV is transmitted.

    All those examples are of consenting adults interacting with other consenting adults.

    The person should have thought of that prior to engaging in the witchery of endangering minors.
    Real love for the Lord does not excuse one's responsibility for their past actions. For example, if you've been irresponsible with finances, and then one day, you decide to get right with your finances and pay off your debt, you're still going to have to deal with the fact that you will have a negative credit report for the next seven to ten years. If a banker refuses to give you a loan, it's not his fault, it's your fault. You will have to live with your past irresponsibility for years. Or, if you've committed a felony in the past, and you apply for a job, is it your fault, or theirs, if they refuse to hire you because of your criminal history.

    Likewise, with a registered sex offender, he/she is going to have to live with that responsibility for years to come. A Christian who repents of his past will understand that his still future does not absolve his responsibility of past actions. A debtor who has repented must still pay past debt, and spend ten years living in financial responsibility without repeating past irresponsibility. Likewise, a registered sex offender who has repented is going to have to live with that past until the statutory time to remain on the list has elapsed, without repeating the offense.

    Also, I think you presume that a Christian can't be a sex offender. Of course they can. There are Christians who molest children, Christians who have drinking problems, Christians who steal, Christians who cheat on their taxes, etc. Christians still sin, like anyone else. Christians are still responsible for their actions.
     
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