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Shall I disprove your KJVO Theory?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by BibleJunky, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. BibleJunky

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    Any word in Italics was added by the translators.

    That makes the KJV Bible an Imperfect Bible in my eyes... I bet the moderator deleates this message too, like she did with some of my other messages too..

    Censorship is Ungodly, Sinful and just plain not right.

    -BibleJunky
     
  2. Askjo

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    Well, you can see 2 different languages for their clarity. American Sign Language (ASL) and English language. You speak English and I speak ASL.

    ASL: See blue there that my car

    How would you translate from ASL to English?

    English: You see the blue car there. That is my car.

    That is why the KJV translators used the Italics.
     
  3. Phillip

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    Hmmmmmm "she" won't delete your messages if you do not call the "Word of God" bad names. Would you Dr. Bob. LOL :D [​IMG] [​IMG]


    I don't think "imperfect" would quite fit in that category because in actuality all translations done by man are somewhat "imperfect"; but they can still contain the "perfect Word of God". There IS a difference.

    Since the Bible is our standard here: Where do you find that censorship is either "unGodly" or a sin? :rolleyes:

    Is the FCC sinning when they tell you that you cannot use certain foul language on your amateur radio transmitter?
     
  4. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Bubba BibleJunky -- Preach it! [​IMG]

    I define "censorship" to be when the government
    says what can or cannot be said
    on the air, what can or cannot be said
    in public places, what can or cannot be
    printed in a book.

    By my Definition this Baptist Board (BB)
    Bulletin Board (bb) (BBbb) cannot comit
    censorship. This BBbb is a PRIVATE place
    belonging only to the Webmaster
    and is adminsistered by those
    ASdmins and Moderators that He (the
    Webmaster) has chosen.
    It is not nice to wiz on the walls
    of a private home.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Phillip

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    Whiiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  6. Phillip

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    You know Bro, out in MacyCalister, Okielahoma
    that you never, never, never, ever
    wiz on no electric fence [​IMG]
     
  8. Phillip

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    You don't know how right you are, except it wasn't no 'lectric fence, it was a 5,000 watt AM radio tower right thar' in Okie Citie when I were a 'ung 'ingineer.

    (WKY never sounded better though.)

    You only do it once, though, and only when you're young and STUPID!
     
  9. Phillip

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    Did I actually admit that to the whole world? I guess the "stupid" part still applies. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. Phillip

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    ...and you guys thought I was dropped on my head when I was a baby.
     
  11. Trotter

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    BibleJunky,

    You just don't know how many Mac-truck-sized holes we (collectively) have shown the KJVO camp, but, well, let's just say they prefer not to see them. You know, "If it ain't in my granpappy's King James, it just ain't a Bible!" That sort of thing.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  12. Anti-Alexandrian

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    Well at least the KJB translators were HONEST to show the italics;many "bibles" today do not show them at all...


    Why not cry to the many translating commities about them not showing italics?
     
  13. Phillip

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    Well at least the KJB translators were HONEST to show the italics;many "bibles" today do not show them at all...


    Why not cry to the many translating commities about them not showing italics?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Ahhhhhh! So, there, Mr. Anti-Alex is admitting additions. Whoa! Check his blood sugar----is it dropping too low?
     
  14. Ed Edwards

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    "That day" from verse 2 is often shown in
    2 Thessalonians 2:3 as well.

    II.Theffalonians II:3 (KJV1611):
    Let no man deceiue you by any
    meanes, for that day shall not come, except
    there come a fallilng away first, and that
    man of sinne bee reuealed, the sonne of
    perdition,

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV1769-paper):
    Let no man deceive you by any means:
    for that day shall not come, except there come
    a falling away first, and that man of sin be
    revealed, the son of perdition;

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV1769-electronic):
    Let no man deceive you by any means:
    for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV1873):
    Let no man deceive you
    by any means: for that day shall not come, except there
    come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
    the sone of perdition;

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (TMB)
    Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall
    not come, unless there come a falling away
    first, and that man
    of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,

    Say, you aren't talking about the electronic copy not
    being italicized while the paper copy is?
    Seems the KJV1769, the KJV of choice for most KJVOs
    has the same problem.

    [​IMG]
     
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    God in His word writes that we are to be careful what we listen to.
     
  16. Dr. Bob

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    BibleJunky has not had his message deleted, but has had his brief membership on our Board deleted.
     
  17. Anti-Alexandrian

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    Not exactly the sharpest crayon in the box are we???


    Translating from one language to another requires it,if it going to make sense.
     
  18. Archangel7

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    In the vast majority of cases, the italicized words in the KJV were supplied by the translators because they were implied by the Greek or Hebrew text and were necessary to convey the meaning in English. However, there are some places where the KJV translators added italicized words which were *not* implied by the original language texts and *not* required to convey the meaning in English. Two examples will illustrate this.

    (1) "But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal." (Rom. 11:4, KJV)

    (2) "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries." (1 Cor. 14:2, KJV)

    The italicized words in these verses are not found nor implied in the Greek text. In these instances, the KJV translators illegitimately introduced commentary into their translation.
     
  19. Phillip

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    Not exactly the sharpest crayon in the box are we???


    Translating from one language to another requires it,if it going to make sense.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Lighten up anti-Alex, just having some fun wicha'. Don't be so uptight. This here are a fun site. :D
     
  20. Phillip

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    So, Mr. Anti-Alex, if we are such a sharp crayon. 'splain sumthin' to me. What's the AV1611 symbol or icon on your profile? Do you think the 1611 is the right Bible or the 1769, or maybe another version?

    If you are obviously anti-Alex, then I assume you don't have a problem with the NKJV, am I correct? :confused:
     
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