Shame On Trinity

Just Confirmed This Morning

Dallas Theological Seminary will NOT accept credits/degrees from Trinity.

 

Sounds Great!

:thumbs: raying:

 

==I could go for either the Biblical Studies or Theology/Apologetics concentrations. Must admit, however, that educational ministries does not appeal to me that much. My degree is a regular MAR with no concentration. I enrolled under a different catalog which offered more in the way of electives than the current catalog does. I spent most of my electives on Biblical Studies, Theology, and Church History. The updated MAR only allows for three "free" electives (in OBST, NBST, NGRK, OICL, APOL, or THEO) then there is the 15 concentration hours.

Have you looked at the current MAR status sheet? If not it is here. The catalog is here if you need it (MAR pg 82).

God bless you in your studies! :thumbsup:

 

One more

Philadelphia Biblical University will not accept degrees/credits from Trinity.

Knox Seminary said they would have to look at the transcript of the courses taken (etc). Then it would be determined if the course credit would be accepted or not, or if maybe partial credit could be given. Knox is ATS, however, so I doubt they will accept much from Trinity.

 

While I am not aware of the type of problems that Trinity has being present at LBC, I don't know if their graduate degrees would be any more usable than Trinity's. Most accredited schools (ATS, TRACS, or regional) will only recognize degrees from accredited schools. They may accept some credits, and you might find "some" accredited schools that would recognize degrees from unaccredited schools like Trinity, Andersonville, and LBC.

From their website...
"Louisiana Baptist, on the basis of its academic standards, financial stability and extensive curriculum, is comparable to many accredited universities. However, as a primarily religious institution, LBU has not sought either regional or national accreditation by a secular accrediting agency. Because of our strong stance on inspiration of the scriptures, doctrinal purity and pre-millennialism many of our administration and faculty hold terminal degrees from LBU."

Of course LBC could gain TRACS accreditation and not have to compromise any doctrine. In fact they could go with SACS and still not have to compromise. The argument that holding to pure doctrine is a valid reason to remain unaccredited is unacceptable.

With accredited, evangelical, Christian schools offering distance learning degrees I can't see why anyone would attend a nonaccredited school. Even some major seminaries, that don't yet offer distance learning programs, offer individual courses via distance learning. Some of these schools don't require you to become an offical student of the school to take those graduate courses for "credit". So a person could pick up some hours at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary and then transfer to Liberty Seminary, or Luther Rice (etc). Other schools do require you to become an offical student, but you could still enroll and take a few courses online and then transfer to a accredited school that offers distance programs. So, again as an example, someone could take some courses through Dallas Theological Seminary's online program and then transfer those courses into a program at Southern Evangelical Seminary. The options are really endless.

In other words there is no reason for Christians today to attend unaccredited distance learning programs.

 

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Masters Seminary

Btw, The Masters Seminary does NOT accept Trinity credits.

"we are unable to accept any transfer credits from Trinity Seminary in Newburgh. It is my understanding that they are in the process of seeking regional accreditation. If that comes to fruition, then we would be able to give transfer considerations." -Email dated 8/7/06

 

==I think that language is a bit strong for this topic, don't you? I just want to see people get the best education they can, that will be as useful to them as it can be. Unaccredited schools, while some of them may offer good programs, can't meet both of those standards. If you don't agree I am sorry but those who get unaccredited MA degrees will have a very hard time entering a PhD program at an accredited school.

==Diversity in education quality? I don't think that is a good thing. We need the highest educational standards possible.

==If a person can't "make the cut" then they should not be doing that level of work. If a person cannot earn a Masters degree from Harvard, Yale, Southeastern, Dallas, Trinity Evangelical Divinity, Campbell, or Wake Forest, then they should not be in a Masters program. They should work to build themselves up to where they can become ready for real graduate education. There is no room for lower standards.

At this time I am working on a Masters in History. There are no "D"s in the program, there are only "A"s, "B"s, "C"s, and "F"s. One "F" and you are out of the program, three "C"s and you are out of the program, and three "W"s and you are out of the program. That is what real graduate programs are like. Even Liberty Seminary had a tight academic policy. If a person can't do the work, at real graduate level, then they should not be at the graduate level. I am afraid that the reason some attend unaccredited distance learning "seminaries" is because they can't meet the academic standards of a real graduate program. That is 100% unacceptable.

==This is part of the reason that undergraduate programs exist (in part). There are Universities, Colleges, Community Colleges, Technical Schools, and Bible Institutes. Many of these schools have programs for students who need extra help for whatever reason (and that is good). Graduate school is a different ball game all together. Graduate school is for those students who are ready to be at that academic level. This is why schools require a certain undergraduate GPA, scores on the GRE or MAT exams, and academic references. These things are done to help assure that the student is indeed ready for graduate level work.

Graduate level work should not be brought down to undergraduate levels simply because someone wants a degree. If someone wants the degree they must do the work to get (a) in to the program and (b) graduate from the program.

==Money is no longer a real issue. There are grants, loans, various assistance programs, and seminary students can get help from their church or fellow church members.

Christian education should never lower its standards, below general graduate level work, just so someone can get a degree. Christian degrees should be just as good as secular degrees, if not better.

==That was then, now is now.