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Should Baptists Defend Porn Perverts & Adult Bookstores?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by rbrent, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. donnA

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    If a woman can only be a keeper of the home, then she can do nothing else but stay in the house. She can not go grocery shopping, she can not run errands like pay bills, or go to the doctor. She can not walk or do other exercise outside the home. She can not go and help others, as a matter of fact she can't even go to church.
    The bible no where says a woman can not be a keeper of the home and other things, the Proverbs 31 woman was keeper of the home and much more. This is our biblical standard as women. Not someones misunderstanding of scripture based on personal opinion and not on scriptural truth.
    There are always people who are anxious to judge others based on their own personal righteousness and flawlessness apart from scripture,and when scripture is used it is mistreated, with no true understanding of more then one verse at a time.
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    Acts 16:14 One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city of Thyatira, who was a worshiper of God.

    Lydia worked! She was in purple cloth sales.
    [​IMG]
     
  3. TWade

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    This thread is becoming more and more amusing. Thank you for the laughs, Wiedertaufen.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  4. donnA

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    You made me think, no where was she admonished for working either. They never told her she was disobedient or a bad christian.
    Well I wonder why?
     
  5. TWade

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    I'm confident our friend will inform us as to why.
     
  6. donnA

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    [​IMG] LOL [​IMG]
    I'm sure your right.
     
  7. Helen

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    Probably the Proverbs 31 woman is unbiblical or wrong or whatever, too.... :rolleyes:
     
  8. Johnv

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    Since this thread has drifted from the topic, and since the original topic seems talked out, perhaps now would be a good time to close the thread? How we go from adult bookstores to womeon working and my dating, er uh, courting life is beyond me. Seems an odd segue :eek:
     
  9. GrannyGumbo

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    My daughter(Farmer's Wife), is a seller of cloth from her "home" & is under the authority of her own husband, not someone else's.

    I had a daycare for years in my home to help supplement the income...with my "own husband" as my head. And if he goes before I do, I will once again support myself from "my home"-(& I live in the country).
     
  10. donnA

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    Well thast nice you have been able to do this from your home, but Lydia didn't have to stay home, the proverbs 31 woman had a busband and didn't have to stay home. So saying a woman has to stay home isn't biblical.
    I son't see why a owman is under another mans authority if she works. When men work are they under a womans authority if they work for a woman? What if she is head of the corporation he works for, even though he is in another state, is he still under her authority? What means then is your husband has to make sure there are no women in authoruity concerning his job, Even if she doesn't work in the same building he does. Every man would have to or they would be unbiblical wouldn't they. Makes no reasonable sence.
     
  11. blackbird

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    Johnv--I believe it was myself who got the whole thread sidetracked---I asked Wearntendorf(ck spellin') something about how he would respond to a highway patrol-man(state trooper here in MS) were actually a woman---and it just sorta drifted off from there about women working and stuff---I'm sorry, dude!!

    your buddy,
    Blackbird
     
  12. GrannyGumbo

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    Well, I always tho't it was the "starter of the thread" who had "control" of how he/she wants it to go...hmmmm~or least that's how it would be for me, should I ever start another thread. Hey-I like to gab 'bout everything! [​IMG]

    But sort of, in a way, this all ties together, as satan uses feminists, helevision, the mass media, etc. to destroy Biblical family values.
     
  13. dianetavegia

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    Absolutely NOT Granny. The thread starter has no control over how a thread will go. Just ask those who regularly start threads. [​IMG]

    Why did you include t.v. and not the internet? The internet gives quick and private access to porn 24 hours a day even at work!

    I challenge you to start a thread on something you feel strongly about (dresses only, long hair, jewelry) and just see what happens! :(

    Diane [​IMG]
    (Who is NOT a feminist but does wear pants, cuts her hair, wears jewelry, home schools and believes in Biblical separation. A real dichotomy!)
     
  14. GrannyGumbo

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    Diane~I have made a few threads when I was here before...and it did not bother me one bit how it went! [​IMG] (I "think" you misunderstood what I wrote).

    It simply slipped my mind 'bout the 'net, as this is all still kinda new to me. When I logged on in April '02, it was my "first"; & when I gave away my 'puter Dec '02, I never figured I'd be back.

    I always ask the Lord every morning to not let me see anything "unsavory", but some of the stuff I've read/seen here on the BB has been pretty racy, if not downright pornographic! :rolleyes:
     
  15. donnA

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    So far those who support this church have not addressed the fact that according to their state laws(link posted on previous post) this church is breaking the law, committing a crime.


    Internet is many times worse then TV. I have a virus in Norton's quarantine, that I just recently found out was not a malicious virus. I also found out what it does do. Before it was quarantined by Norton's it would reset my home page to a porn site, with pictures and all. It also uses key words you might type in, simple everyday words with nothing wrong with them, like houseplant for instance, and it would pop up a porn site, sometimes actually take me from the site I was visiting to a porn site. I had no idea what was going. So the internet is much worse. You can change the channel on th tv and it doesn't change itself to something bad.
    So the probelm includes the internet.
     
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    It sounds pretty good on the surface, but it utilizes deception. That's the issue I have a problem with. Besides, Christians are called to be moral compasses, not moral police.

    Now, if CHristians were to stand on street corners frequented by prostitutes, and hold video cameras pointing at the girls, that would be different.
     
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    [ February 10, 2004, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Hamtramck_Mike ]
     
  19. rbrent

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    donnA wrote:
    http://www.oakcrestchurch.org/index1.htm

    Peeping on Porn Purchasers

    With the current backdrop of child molestation at the hands of religious leaders, if you heard that a pastor was installing digital cameras with zoom lenses around his church, would you be a little worried? Well, here's the twist: The members of Pastor Jim Norwood's Oakcrest Family Church are breathing a sigh of relief at the installation of five cameras around the church parking lot, because his cameras are for snooping out sexually deviant behavior, not instigating it.

    Norwood spent $1,500 on five cameras to photograph license plates of vehicles parked at adult businesses (sex shops, strip clubs, etc.) down the street with the intention of blowing the whistle on these pervs to their family and friends. Here, the time-honored tool of public embarrassment is being used to combat the development of pornography commerce in small town life. The church will be sending out postcards with the identifying photos on them, alongside a schedule of church services, to the car owner's address (obtained through the license plates). The goal? To get the smut shoppers to stop patronizing the adult shops.

    Steven Swander, an attorney who represents one of the strip clubs, says that his free speech-protected clients take offense to the snooping, calling it a "Scarlet Letter tactic." On the other hand, ACLU attorney Roger Albright says Norwood isn't breaking any laws by taking the pictures and sending postcards. [​IMG]

    So, is it a violation of privacy to take pictures of people and send them as postcards? Or do the same laws protecting free speech and association that protect sex shops and strip clubs make Norwood's actions permissible? And isn't spying on people a form of sexual deviancy in itself? It's called voyeurism, folks. Does this make Norwood a peeping Tom?

    In the long term, these tactics will likely lose effectiveness. Assuming porn becomes available from more outlets, and purchasing of such material becomes less stigmatic overall, embarrassment will fade -- or Norwood will run out of stamps.

    THE ARTICLE ABOVE IS FROM THIS WEBSITE

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    Wouldn't the ACLU be all over this case IF IT REALLY WAS ILLEGAL?
     
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    Buying information that the State of Texas says that they are not authorized to get is illegal - irregardless of whether or not you or anybody else recognizes it. And since when is the ALCU a bastion of truth?
     
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