Should Christians be REPUBLICAN?

I don't know, if that was directed at me or what, but you sir can take your smart alleck comments and stick them firmly in your ear or any other orfice you see fit... this comment may get me banned from here, but I don't take personal jabs very kindly. I never said anything about anyone in here, and I would expect the same treatment from the rest of you.

Nuff Said,

Born Baptist

 

I don't want to get in the middle of something but...

Was this another "BornBaptist"?

Bro Tony

 

I don't want to get in the middle of something but...

Was this another "BornBaptist"?

Bro Tony </font>[/QUOTE]I commenting on his Political Views, not the person himself.

 

Okay, I will accept that. But, I will also state that the comment by Dr.Bob (not that he needs me to defend him) is a legitamate comment also. For one to know what Kerry stands for, to know what the Democratic platform is, begs the question----How can a Bible believing Christian support him or the platform?

Bro Tony

 

Born Baptist,
You say "what this country needs to survive is jobs."
What this country needs to survive is Jesus Christ and you aren't even close with John Kerry. But if jobs come before morals and values then Kerry is the man.

Bob

 

I am a Republican but the Constitution Party is more consistent on the Abortion issue than the GOP. There are many pro Abortion and pro Homosexual Republicans. There are other moral issues besides Abortion which most conservative Christians and the GOP often ignore such as the Health Care crisis and the Enviroment where the GOP has been weak.

 

I agree with you about the Constitution Party from what I know about them. But I don't think you can compare killing a baby with the enviroment. And I believe that many republicans are very sensitive to the enviroment no matter what the press says. We may not believe animals are humans are hug trees but most hunters are republicans and they contribute more to enviromental causes then any orginization.

Bob

 

Hi Bob. Bob I am not comparing killing a baby with the enviroment though certaintly the abuse of the enviroment can lead to death for humans in the long run and there is a God given responsibilty to be enviromentalists. Republicans have let the Democrats steal this issue from them in that most Enviromental groups are associated with the Democrats and the Green Party. I also realize that some Enviromental groups are radical and extreme also. The Republican Party has been weak on the Health Care crisis and this is a real real moral threat to many middle class and poor people who are being abused and fleeced of their life savings and in many cases have their lives ruined by Greedy "Health" Care people. Republicans were good at bashing the Clinton Health plan as Socialist (Which it was) But offered no alternative to the Health Care crisis themself. The "Health Care" industry is ravaging the middle class and poor and the GOP has not been a moral voice.

I am a Republican but I the party is slowly moving away from being the Party of Reagan. There is a need for a serious Third Party if the GOP does not Reform. The Democrats are so married to the Left I wonder if it is possible for them.

 

Kiffen,
Very good post. Hey I'm not one to say that the Republicans are the answer. I do agree that the Republicans haven't done much for the health care they do a lot of talking. I just don't think voting for another canidate at this point is going to help. I believe that would get Kerry elected. And to compare the two well I would have to go with Bush no dout. But I tell you I'm not one to vote Republican just because there Republican. I have a uncle who is a State Senator Democrate he is more conservative than most Replicans I know (R.I.N.O)

God Bless
Bob

 

Only if they plan to vote.

 

Bush is committed to mouthing Christian platitudes to get the right wing christian vote. You know you're for a man who said publically the Christians and Moslems worship the same god. I don't consider that to be a "Christian value," do you?

 

Our welfare recipients are more wealthy than most of the people in Jesus' time.

As for Republicans being for the rich, you are partly right. The GOP more so than the modern day Demoncrats stand for the right of anyone to become rich. They do this by market favorable tax and regulatory positions.

It is a mistake to say that the Dems are for the working class and against the rich. They are mostly against small business people and the upwardly mobile. The Dems link a coalition of Big Business, Big Government, Big Labor, and Big Special Interests.

Big business doesn't particularly want lower taxes and is decidedly against relaxing Federal regulations. Both of these things are barriers to new competition.

Check your parables. Several of them support the right of the property owner against the "common men" who thought they deserved a piece of the rich man's fortune. In the parable of the talents, Jesus places the burden on the poor man to faithfully, industriously use what he has... he then condemned him for not being diligent and worrying about what he didn't have.

There are no instances where Jesus indicated that the wealth of one group should be forcibly confiscated for the benefit of a second group in order that a third group might garner votes.

Democrats are guilty of buying votes with other people's money... that's called stealing and deception.

 

Kerry doesn't even go to this trouble.

Further, the real tale on these two parties in who they appoint to the judiciary.

Clinton, "the moderate", appointed most of the libs who are issuing radical rulings on social issues. Kerry and his liberal brethren in the Senate have stopped Bush judicial appointments for no other reason than the nominee's pro-life beliefs.

 

"Should Christians be Republican?"

Christians should vote the values taught in the Bible. Right now the Republicans are more sympathetic to those values than the Dems. However we should never get hung up on labels. The Democrats became hostile to Christian values about 30 years ago when the social liberals took over the party.... yet many traditionalists still vote that party line for the "party of the working man"... which the Dems haven't been since 1980.

 

Every bit as much as voting for a lost Catholic who is pro-abortion/pro-homosexual and who scammed his way to medals ... or a proven adulterer who perjured himself.

I guess Slick Willy lied for the benefit of the "working man".

 

I said I lean more towards the Liberatarian party. I dont' agree with them completly and I don't vote for them. I don't agree with abortion. I would vote republican

 

AMEN! Examine the candidates. There are Republicans who support abortion, homosexuality, and anti-religion. You have to look at a candidate for there issues not their party. Before he retired this year, I supported a democrat in my state for senate. Why? Because he was conservative. This year I don't like either one of the candidates that are running for senate because neither one of them is truly pro-life. The point is It doesn't matter what party you're in as long as you vote for the right issues. such as pro-life. The governments job is protection not provision the dems "provide" healthcare, schools and so on. The truth is THAT IS SOCIALISM. I am against public schools and Socialized medicine. People make the issue that God should be in public schools when the real issue is "Should there be public schools?" Okay now I'm on rabbit trails. Listen to Sean Hannity on the radio if you can He is catholic but he can enlighten anyone to politics very well.

 

I wish the national debate was between the Libertarians and Constitution Party.

The jobs, food, shelter, etc. mentioned by someone earlier as a duty of government are all provided for slaves. The legitimate function of our government is to preserve liberty, security, and rights. On these things, the Republicans stink... the Democrats simply stink alot more.

 

Absolutely!!! Who should we run out of schools, God or the Federal Gov't? Seems like an obvious answer for Christians.

 

"For over one hundred years Americans have been running a gigantic experiment in government schools, trying to find out what a society looks like without God. Now we know." –-Douglas Wilson