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Should Sgt Lopez be given Americian Citizenship

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. Salty

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    Took a while to get the background on this post, Salty.

    A Mexican national who moved to Georgia, who enlisted in the US Marines. I haven't seen anything that indicates he was applying for US citizenship.

    However, he died fighting for America. Yes, grant him the citizenship. If the laws allow that citizenship to extend to his family, so be it.
     
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    Wholeheartedly agree. It seems only right.
     
  4. Salty

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    Might be a bit hard, since he was in Iraq.

    What caught my attention was that Mexico refused an American Honors funeral in their country.
     
  5. billwald

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    >I swore an Oath to defend the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That Oath was not rescinded when I left the Military.

    On the other hand, "enemy" has been redefined to mean anyone who doesn't support US policy. Are you proposing to kill off 2/3's of the world's population?
     
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    Silly Bill; the oath was to defend the US Constitution.

    We only propose to kill off 2/3's of the world's population if we're defending.
     
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    Very nice. I agree 100%.
     
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    I doubt that SGT. Lopez cares one way or the other.

    One question:

    Who else are we automatically granting citizenship to when we grant his?
     
  9. matt wade

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    Agreed. We have a set of rules to follow to gain citizenship. SGT. Lopez, his family, and every other non-citizen needs to follow the proper procedure.
     
  10. Salty

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    And one rule should be that if a solider / sailor / Marine / Airman is KIA than Citizenship should be granted posthumously. True, Sgt Lopez may not care, but these acts are more for the survivor.

    Since Sgt Lopez was in the military, I am confident he was in this country legally.

    Sgt Salty
    NY Guard, Ret
     
  11. matt wade

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    I would agree with the rule, but it isn't a rule currently. I will whole heartedly support your campaign to make this the law of our land.
     
  12. mets65

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    How could you enlist if you weren't legal?
     
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    other questions:

    Had Sgt. Lopez applied for immediate citizenship as he was allowed to do under special wartime provisions of the INA?

    Did he really want to renounce his citizenship of Mexico to become a citizen of the U.S. ? Or was he in it for the money and the benefits?

    It seems to me that if he really wanted to be a citizen, he would have taken at least one step in that direction. Did he?
     
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    Something that could make this entire discussion moot...


    Has the application been filled out?

    If Sgt. Lopez cared about being a citizen, he should have informed his wife or next of kin of the procedure.
     
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    One reason that otherwise eligible Mexican Nationals do not take out US citizenship is Mexican land ownership law. Mexico is very particular about non-Mexicans owning land.

    As for Mexico not allowing a burial with full US military honors:
    goes to Mexico's long standing attitude that Mexican nationals north of the Rio Bravo are traitors to La Patria.
    goes to their not allowing armed forgein troops on Mexican soil.

    My question is under similar circumstances how big of a stink would be raised if the US government allowed a burial detachment from the Mexican Armed Forces north of the Rio Grande to bury one of theirs in Kansas.
     
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