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Should some beats be avoided?

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Sopranette, Nov 29, 2007.

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  1. ByGracethroughFaith

    ByGracethroughFaith New Member

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    The Bible ALSO has a word for the sin of calling a work of SATAN a work of GOD.

    It starts with a "B" and ends with "lasphemy."

    Look it up.


    BTW: It is not modern Christian music I am against. I am against calling fornication music, Christian music.

    And for your last post, how about this one from their site.

    http://www.castingcrowns.com/site.p...t=information&subcontent=band_member_profiles


    BGTF
     
  2. Aaron

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    Not a true statement.
     
  3. Aaron

    Aaron Member
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    Race is irrelevant.
     
  4. SBCPreacher

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    I'm done. There's no way that anyone can get you to see the truth. I'm not going to waste my time anymore waiting for you to see it.

    I guess it is true - ignorance is bliss.
     
  5. SBCPreacher

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    I just want to say one more thing to our misguided friend.

    You wanted us to read an article that you linked. It is where some "preacher" is writing or preaching about Leviticus 10:1-3,10. You know, I've studied that passage a little. Music is nowhere mentioned in the passage. The "beat" wasn't mentioned. The "preacher" did like so many do. They read a passage of scripture, and then begin to jump through hoops trying to make their own agenda fit the scripture. That's sad. He had the opportunity to teach God's people God's Word, but chose to twist it to somehow prove his own preconceived notions. How sad indeed.

    Now, I'm done!
     
  6. Aaron

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    This is a true statement.


    “Roll” is sweet, as a noun. Lush. Soft. Eschewing every traditional Anglo-Saxon word for the female organ, recently freed New Orleans slaves were calling it a “jelly roll” over 100 years ago. So juicy did they find the expression that it came to mean [the male reproductive organ] as well as [the female], both genders singing about “my jelly roll.” The first great jazz composer called himself Jelly Roll Morton. Then there’s “roll of fat,” “roll of bills” -- that kind of roll. And as a verb (Roll the verb!), it can move and it can move and it might never stop, end over end over infinity. Oceans roll.

    Putting the two together, “rock’n’roll” was a term from the juke joints of the South, long in use by the forties, when a music started being heard that had no name, wasn’t jazz and wasn’t simply blues and wasn’t Cajun, but had all those elements and could not be ignored. In those juke joints “rock’n’roll” hadn’t meant the name of a music, it meant “to [have sex].” “Rock,” by itself, had pretty much meant that, in those circles, since the twenties at least. “Rock’n’roll” was a juicy elaboration on the old usage. When, finally, in the mid-fifties, the songs started being played by white people and aired on the radio -- “Rock Around the Clock,” “Good Rockin’ Tonight,” “Reelin’ And A-Rockin”’ -- the meaning hadn’t changed. The word was so prevalent that the music began to be called “rock’n’roll” by disc jockeys who either didn’t know what they were saying or were too sly to admit what they knew. The term stuck. Michael Ventura, Hear That Long Snake Moan.
     
  7. rbell

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    I concede your point that one of CC's members should re-evaluate his music choices. And yes, I have a problem with his musical choice. Thank you for posting the link.

    However...you have still accused brothers in Christ, whom have led many to the Lord, of doing Satan's work. That is flat out wrong. You have no right to do that, and you will answer to God for it.

    Also...before coming on here and ripping them to shreds, did you go to them? If you aren't going to follow Scripture, then don't whine about others not following it.

    BTW...you conveniently ignored my posts about Pythagoreanism. Where is your scriptural support for the "melody is good, beat is bad" argument?
     
  8. rbell

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    Aaron, it's one thing to give the etymology of "Rock & Roll." (a term you hear many CCM musicians do not use); it's another to accuse CC of promoting fornication. You've not done that; BGTF has slanderously accused his brothers in Christ.

    Even though we disagree, you don't resort to slander. He does.
     
  9. SaggyWoman

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    Those irrelevant black services had beat to them.
     
  10. rbell

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    That there's funny. :laugh:

    Irrelevant, but funny. :D :applause:
     
  11. Mike McK

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    And this makes all rock music bad because...?
     
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    Association.
     
  13. Sopranette

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    Wow! I come back from lunch with friends, and this is what happened while I was gone? I'm so sorry people are battling this out so coldly. I truely am. It was a simple question in my OP. It's not a race issue. It's not an instrument issue, either. I sincerely wanted people's opinion on the matter of BEATS. BEATS, you all! Please don't hurt eachother over this simple topic.

    love,

    Sopranette
     
  14. rbell

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    It's not so simple when someone accuses a Christian of doing satan's work...

    I have conversations all the time about this subject. BGTF is one of the few on the "other side" from me to be ugly about it. No worries here....my conscience is clear.
     
  15. ByGracethroughFaith

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    Truth is ugly sometimes. [offensive language removed]
    BGTF
     
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    You, my dear, are stepping on some fragile ground here. YOU are not God. Your word does not equal God's Word. You have your beliefs and there are MANY, MANY other TRUE believers who have the Holy Spirit active and working in their lives to do not have those same beliefs. Music is made by God. Can we misuse it? Yes. But all music made after 1600-1700 is not bad. I'm sitting here listening to Kristy Nockles singing "Praise to the Lord, the Almighty" - with guitar, drums, bass and tambourines. It's beautiful. I then heard her singing some other songs that were recently written that were just as beautiful and edifying to the Lord. You know what? I'm not panting to have sex right now. It doesn't push me to fornicate. Far from it. It makes me want to get off the computer and sit and pray - and worship my God. Hmmm - that breaks the theory that modern music will cause one to fornicate.

    I'm sorry that you do not enjoy music. God has gifted so many in that area of talent and it's a blessing to be a part of that.

    What you say has no bearing on those of us who truly love the Lord and enjoy the gift of music He's given us. You listen to your old stuff, we'll listen to our new stuff. I'm not calling you a sinner because you listen to the old songs - that were written by men who were just as much sinners as anyone else. If you can show me ONE verse that says that a beat is bad - that guitars are bad - that drums are bad - that modern music is bad, then I'll listen to God. Otherwise it's subjective and you have no right to call ANYONE a sinner where God doesn't.

    As I said, you're treading on fragile ground and I wonder what seared YOUR heart that you are so cold to the Spirit.
     
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  17. Mike McK

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    In other words,

    A) A black guy robbed a store once
    B) Hey, that guy over there's black
    C) Let's get him!

    For Aaron, it always seems to come back to the name "rock and roll". Maybe if we just changed the name to something less offensive to him like "Puppies and Rainbows" or something, then the music would be OK.

    Or maybe we could just make up a word like "razzmatazz", right Aaron?
     
  18. Mike McK

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    Does this mean you're going to back up your claim about reggae music now?
     
  19. rbell

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    Hey, I've got a deal for ya. You keep posting, and I'll keep reporting. How's that?
     
  20. Aaron

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    This fact doesn't "make" anything. What it does is describe a sensual appeal.
     
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