Since I'm sure some are wondering about me...

Bro. Ed said,

I don't believe the Lord's Supper is a bare memorial nor do most Protestants of the Reformed tradition. As the 1689 London Baptist Confession states, Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the bread and the cup of the Supper ,do inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally, but spiritually receive, and feed upon Christ crucified, and all the benefits of His death; You will find the same teaching in both Calvin's Institutes, Westminister Confession and the Anglican Book of Comon Prayer. So no it is not a bare symbol though I don't accept the RCC view of the Real Presence nor do I accept the Zwinglian view.

As far as Baptism goes "goes down into the water dead and rises up from it in new life" is consistent with Baptist confessions and is often said at baptism in Baptist churches. You are reading between the lines that it is referring to baptismal regeneration in that Baptist confessions have similar statements

Smyth Baptist Confession 1609
That baptism is the external sign of the remission of sins, of dying and of being made alive

Helwys Baptist Confession 1611
The Holy Baptism is given unto these in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, which hear, believe, and with penitent heart receive the doctrines of the Holy Gospel. For such bath the Lord Jesus commanded to be baptized, ...The whole dealing in the outward visible baptism of water, setteth before the eyes, witnesseth and signifieth, the Lord Jesus doth inwardly baptize the repentant, faithful man, in the layer of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost, washing the soul from all pollution and sin, by the virtue and merit of his bloodshed; and by the power and working of the Holy Ghost, the true, heavenly, spiritual, living Water, cleanseth the inward evil of the soul, and maketh it heavenly, spiritual, and living, in true righteousness or goodness. Therefore, the baptism of water leadeth us to Christ, to his holy office in glory and majesty; and admonisheth us not to hang only upon the outward, but with holy prayer to mount upward, and to beg of Christ the good thing signified.

1689 London Baptist Confession
a sign of his fellowship with him, in his death and resurrection; of his being engrafted into him; of remission of sins; and of giving up into God, through Jesus Christ, to live and walk in newness of life.

Even our Anabaptist cousins who preceded us qnd also denied baptismal regeneration stated,

Dirk Philips wrote:

Paul calls baptism a washing of the new birth because baptism stands for the new birth. This was like the Israelites called circumcision a covenant because it stood for a covenant, and like they called the great feast a passover because it stood for a passover.

Jan Geertsz
Baptism is a grave for sin, a gateway into the Lord's commune, a putting on of Christ, a fleeing from the wrath of God, a washing of rebirth, and the seal of a good conscience or assurance toward God

Grace to you

 

Kiffin

The more you point out how Baptist-based my church is, the more I will wonder why I am not permitted to post on the Baptist Only boards, just for the sake of a name.

I accept it as the rule here but I won't pretend to understand it.

 

AITB,

Maybe there could be an exception made for baptistic people but I don't make the rules or pay the bills here. But I do appreciate your comments and debate. God Bless

 

Hi Galatian --

You know, the thing I really love about the Ruthenian Liturgy is how we chant all the prayers acappela. I just close my eyes and it is so easy to imagine that I am in Heaven (which in the most real sense I am) joining in with the angels in singing "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord our God..." and all the other great praises of our great and mighty God.

Spanish Mass sounds interesting. And for medieval beauty, there indeed is nothing like a high Anglo-Catholic Mass. Love the Elizabethan wording!!

Cordially in Christ,

Brother Ed

 

I don't know how one would know for sure who is 'baptistic' - it could get very complex, I think - but I appreciate that you can see how Baptistic my church doctrine is.

Thank you also for your comments and God bless you too...