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Discussion in 'Computers & Technology Forum' started by Don, Jun 10, 2002.

  1. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Seems like we have a lot of these going on, but they're intermingled with topics like "Church Web Sites" and "Creating a Web Site."

    How about using this thread to simply post sites you'd like honest opinions about?

    I'll even jump in the water first:

    www.ifbweb.com
    www.ifbweb.com/purewords
    www.ifbweb.com/bross

    Please give me your honest, low-down opinions. Looking at site design, navigation, load speeds, etc.
     
  2. GrannyGumbo

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    Okay, Bro.Don, I've waited all evening for someone else to say something. sorry. I'm not going to be intellectual with my comments, but here's my thoughts: the first 2 were clean & crisp, but I found the 3rd one to be what I call choppy. I am using an ancient computer which takes forever to do anything, so can't tell ya about all that other stuff you asked for. There. I helped.
     
  3. Don

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    Thanks, Granny.

    Out of the three, I only did the first one. The other two were done by two different individuals.

    And it's funny, but it was the second one that came up choppy on my computer...even with a cable internet connection....
     
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    Try powercycling your cable modem (unplug it from the power source, then plug it back in after 30 secs).
     
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    Whooopss !! Sorry, Don, I spoke too soon.
    I think what makes that one come up choppy is the javascript and the frames.

    By the way, y'all, if you're looking for some great graphics, try also:

    sharon griffin's his image.org

    Great graphics.

    Personally, though, I don't use much graphics in my church's websites and in my own personal website. I prefer black and white, or one color in combination with white. For loading purposes.

    Visit them, if you will (I must warn you, though,
    they are all "electionist" in context :D ):
    </font>For those who are absolutely beginners, I'd be more than happy to help with advice and stuff.
     
  6. Don

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    Load speeds were great (advantage of mainly text, minimal graphics). I thought all three were well done.
     
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    Bro.Don, what I meant by choppy, was the lay-out, I guess; & I didn't care for the music too much. It was irritating? I liked the first one right off, the colors(etc), & the quote by Billy Sunday.
     
  8. pinoybaptist

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    oh, my beloved brethren [​IMG]

    I have erred. Sharon Griffin's correct website is
    griffin web art , but that is not to say that hisimage.org is not excellent, too.

    In a scale of 1-10 with 1 as highest, they would both be 1.

    Visit, visit, visit. [​IMG]
     
  9. Don

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    Now, Granny; I'm not out for ego-stroking, so I'll just say thank you!

    My intent was to get away from a focus on "flahsy" graphics, and get to the nitty-gritty and the purpose of the page (like Pinoy's pages): Providing a little bit of information, and linking people all over the web.

    As for the other two (purewords and bross), I'll be sure to (anonymously) pass on y'all's thoughts. The intent is to make each and every page better!

    [ June 11, 2002, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: Don ]
     
  10. Don

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    Pinoy, both of those sites have excellent graphics.
     
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    OK, Don, here's the truth---first two sites colors were too bright & hurt my eyes! :eek:

    Seriously. But don't shoot the messenger, ok? They loaded up fine (I'm on cable modem) & fast, no problem. ;)
     
  12. Don

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    Not at all, Eagle. I consider this all constructive criticism, not the kind intended to belittle or besmirch.

    I'll have to take a look at the second site, and let the author of that one know what you said.

    As for the first one (that I did), tell me: Do you have a problem with the plain white background that Baptist Board uses on most of the threads?
     
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    Hey, Don. Easiest on my eyes is light gray background, ya know, like every other post on this BB. Alternating with white like on here works for me.

    White gets to me personally because I type on white all day long! (with black font) I used to like working in word perfect (olden days) because we could change the background color and typeset color to suit us and the best one for a lot of us was light gray background with navy blue type!

    When surfing, the easiest colors on my eyes are muted backgrounds. Most of my own web pages are designed with ease on the eyes in mind, muted background colors, light pastels, off color typesets like burgandy, navy, etc. I play around until I get something that can be stared at but is relaxing, too.

    Did you ever research on colors and emotions evoked? Big companies put a lot of research in this subject for marketing purposes! LOL!

    By far the PRETTIEST (IMO) forum on BB is the Women's Forum with the Pink Outline surrounding the threads! [​IMG] (But I like pink....the only thing better than pink would be LAVENDER!) [​IMG] :D :D :eek:
     
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    Um...while I'm going to look at a light gray background, I'm going to have to put my manly foot down, and say, "NO PINK!!!"

    (chuckle)

    [​IMG]
     
  15. LindaB

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    Hi Don, hope you dont mind if I jump in here and put my two cents in:

    for IFB Web:
    Definitely a solid color background, use column background color to separate the menus from each other
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    the about us column make a solid color (gray is nice as mentioned before) or any websafe color
    the Join our community column, white
    the baptist sites column, gray as well
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    the colors are very bright and there are toooo many going on.
    instead of using colored links and capitals you can use small graphics or colored cells to highlight areas.
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    use a code to remove underline on the links, that will cut down on the 'busyness'
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    instead of having all of those searches and download links on the main page, develop a 'downloads' area and a 'free tools' area
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    instead of using an email link for contact, use a form, that will cut down on junk mail, spamming and virus spreading.
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    Add a mailing list, and a recommend this site form.
    ~have the links to outside sites open in a new window (like the abortion stats) this way your visitors wont go away.
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    Love the quizzes!
    There is excellent content on the site, just needs some definition and that can be done with color and some basic coding.

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    Id be glad to capture your site and do the colors and coding for you, then send it to you to check out,what it would look like let me know!
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    Linda [​IMG]

    ChristianGraphicDesign.com
     
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    Once upon a time, the "best" and "easiest on the eyes" color was supposed to have been a dark blue background with yellow text....

    Linda, I definitely appreciate the suggestions. Unfortunately, a few of them I can't implement at the moment (my current web hosting service disable cgi scripting, so I can't do forms at the moment; however, I'm in the process of moving, thanks to some of the hosting sites you suggested)

    Eagle, please give it another try, and tell me what you think.
     
  17. Tony Ford

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    My honest opinion as a person who works in the field for over 11 years now, is that the site looks like sites designed 10 years ago. No offence or harm meant - just pure honesty.

    It lacks attention to detail in terms of basic graphic design.

    Typography - Drop the cursive type - makes the text less readable.... the 3 different blue colors don't match- harmonise your colors the darker blue works use shades of it.

    Logo - too large it doesn't need to overpower the site...

    layout - standard. again the type style ruins it the type should all be aligned to the left to help readability..

    left navigation is good... however when you go to another page again the layout loses its composure.
    The copy on the follow-up pages need to be better formated.

    as I said i am only wanting to help and be direct.

    tony ford
    interface designer
    personal site: www.tony-ford.co.uk/flash02.htm
    Church website: www.rutherglenbaptistchurch.org
     
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    No offense taken; however, could you be more specific?

    Changes right now to the main page will not be reflected in the other pages until I've settled on what works best.

    Cursive type? You mean the italicized?

    Left aligned for readability? You mean the center and right columns?
     
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    Hi Don
    the colors you mentioned give me a headache thinking about them!
    stick with the basics, try making changes that have been suggested, see if you like them instead of trying to gather all the info you can before making the changes..
    start small. as far as a page header, i agree its too big and as a Logo Designer, its rather cartoonish, I'll do a new webpage header for you at no cost, just let me know.
    BUT you first have to implement some changes that are being mentioned!
    NO PRESSURE though [​IMG]
    Linda
    Christian Web & Graphic Design
     
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