Sixty Days of Jail Time for Backyard Bible Study

Let me offer another scenrio

Lets just say that the preacher in question is a "strict" by the book ordinance keeper----he has vowed inside of himself to stick to code---whereever he lives---and lets just say that he now lives where he is currently living with the codes on the book as they stand

Then I come in----I buy a couple of lots next door to him----in fact---one lot on one side of his house---another on the other side

Its a free country, right???

Suppose I make a decision----on one lot I begin construction of a "mini" hog farm and on the other side of the hapless preacher----I begin construction of a strip joint

How long would you say it would take before the preacher is "squeelin'" about my decision to the ordinance council?????

 

Agreeing with printed ordinances----does not make one an oppressor

 

It does when those ordinances violate the constitution. You cannot label Bible study "commercial" in all instances.

 

It depends. If the "strip joint" and the "hog farm" did not trespass on the other's property, via sounds or smells, then the person would have absolutely no cause to complain. Its not their property.

So you are saying the police can tell a person, "You cannot study the Bible in your house." That is what you are saying?

 

What about sounds and smells from the preacher's property?

 

If the preacher was having music that was too loud, etc., then the neighbor could complain. But that is a different issue than ordinances, and is no different than when your next door neighbors party gets too loud. You ask them to turn it down, if they don't, they can be cited for disturbing the peace.

However, that is not the case here. The Preacher has a large property, and their are no bothersome sounds. This is strictly a case of the city of phoenix calling any Bible study a "Church" (the man and his wife were being harassed by the city BEFORE the building, when they were meeting in his living room), and thus forbidding it in any non-commercial building.

 

An ordinance that is in violation of liberty, and established US law! You cannot just make up local ordinances that say "You aren't allowed to worship Jesus at your house."

That is STUPID. How could any right thinking individual support this???

What is wrong with you people?

 

What established law are you speaking about?

How can any right thinking person defend someone who says he is building a game room and then holds church?z After all it does have a pulpit.

I have read your posts. You are not defending freedom, but license at the expense of everyone else. What about their freedoms?

 

They didn't - they said that the frequency and number of people that he had over met the requirements for him to need a commercial building.

No one did. And you saying this is beyond silly.

 

Yes they did. They specifically told them that "more than 2" people engaging in "worship" was considered a Church. They specifically told them that other activities, with the same number of people, were permissible.

Yes they did. And you denying it is not just silly; its wicked.

 

The first amendment, and the equal protection clause.

What would you like him to mark on the permit? "Parking Garage"? THERE IS NOT A BOX ON THE PERMIT FORMS FOR "Worship room"! The designation of a "Accessory/Game room" is an OFFICIAL designation, for permitting purposes. He did not LIE to anyone. An accessory building/game room, is a building or part of a building used for special, periodic purposes; parties, get togethers, etc. etc. THERE IS NTHER DESIGNATION that he could have used.

Oh, the ignorance of people on this forum!!

WHOSE FREEDOMS? He is not doing ANYTHING too ANYONE.

 

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