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Small businesses generate the most minimum wage jobs

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by billwald, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. targus

    targus New Member

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    Here's an idea...

    He could get in on the gravy train by starting his own business seeing how it's such an easy non-risk low investment guaranteed thing !! :laugh:

    Then he can pay himself six times as much as the saps who work for him and get paid every week whether the business is making money or not. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Havensdad

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    It is a violation of my constitutional rights, to FORCE me to join a union, OR to force me to pay dues whether or not I join. That is a HORRIBLE repression of my rights. If I desire to go directly to an employer, and get a job without being involved in a union, or paying any dues to them, that is, frankly, none of your dam* business!
     
  3. targus

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    And while we're at it...

    Why should only people who buy stocks low and sell high get all the profits?

    I think that people who make money in the stock market should pay out 90% of their gains to people who don't invest !!!
     
  4. billwald

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    I don't know of any businesses which have closed because the minimum wage was raised.

    I would not recommending raising it rapidly.

    In Washington the minimum wage is $8.67 or about 19K a year.

    Median family income by county varies from around 66K in King County Seattle metro to 34K in Whitman County (farm country).. State median is around 56K see

    http://www.ofm.wa.gov/economy/hhinc/medinc.pdf

    So the minimum wage ranges from 56% of median income to 16%, 18% of state median wage.

    My point, $8.67/hour is starvation wages in most of my state.
     
  5. InTheLight

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    News Flash! Minimum wage jobs are entry level jobs! They are not meant to be career paths to support a family!
     
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    "Of course, his wife could get a job and they could leave the kids to fend for themselves when school lets out. That would be the Republican solution? "

    Not quite, if they left the kids to fend for themselves the kids would be taken by momma state, put on the taxpayers dime and imprison the poor folks that are trying to make a living - that is not the Republican way that is the Democratic momma state way - YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
     
  7. targus

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    Actually your point was that small business generates the most minimum wage jobs.

    You can just look at the title if you forgot.

    Now that you have been shown to be other than correct you are merely trying to change the subject.
     
  8. mandym

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    Who said that every employer was supposed to provide enough salary to support a family? If you cant live off of the wage offered go somewhere else. One thing is for certain. The left cares nothing about the freedom this country was founded on.
     
  9. billwald

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    You all want the freedom to live in a master/serf economy and are trying to initiate a race to the bottom of the human food chain. Not for yourselves but for the heathen. You all are smarter, work harder and longer than the vast heathen majority. God will bless you because you all believe in Jesus. You all will be the masters.

    In your guts, you don't WANT the tide to raise all ships equally. You think would would be better off if the government and the unions would only get out of your collective. Right?
     
  10. targus

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    Actually it is you that is continually advocating a master/serf economy.

    One where the union bosses are the masters and the workers are the serfs all paying their obligitory dues to the those masters for the right to their positions as serfs.
     
  11. mandym

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    No we do not want unions and the government to "raise the tide". We want everyone to earn their own way and be productive. Socialists want the rich to produce and provide a living for the "middle class". If someone else has more then you get jealous and demand some of it be given to you. Socialists are parasites.
     
  12. billwald

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    How should the profits from increased worker productivity be divided between the workers and the owners? Should the owners get all of it?
     
  13. InTheLight

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    Yes. :thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    How should the losses from sales be divided between the workers and the owners? Should the owners get all of it, or should the workers be required to forfeit a % of their pay.?
     
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    Beautiful. I wonder how the liberal goofballs will try to refute such simple common sense logic?
     
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    Under socialism the workers would be the owners.
     
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    Workers may not be forfeiting pay, but instead, more likely the entire job. And it doesn't seem like most owners usually forfeit anything, at least not in big enterprises.
     
  18. targus

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    Another way would be for workers to buy stock in the company that they work for.
     
  19. targus

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    "Increased union worker productivity" is an oxymonon. :laugh:

    Unions generally push to lower productivity - not higher.
     
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  20. billwald

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    Workers are responsible for increased productivity. Workers are not responsible for a loss of sales.
     
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