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Social Control Through Fear

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ps104_33, Mar 3, 2007.

  1. hillclimber1

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    Bologna. Only the liberals desire to manage mankind. True conservatives seek a world in which man can manage with limited government, and pursue his life as he sees fit.

    The war on terror is about Americas future, which is bleak, given our current political climate.
     
  2. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    There were some pretty specific examples given.
     
  3. Daisy

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    Which specific examples of liberals instilling fear to promote socialism are applicable to all liberals everywhere?
     
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    What passes for conservatism today is nothing more than an overwhelming desire to control everything up to and including independent thought.

    The war on terror is in itself a tool of that control, control of other's resources and control over domestic dissent to the greed and corruption that drives it.
     
  5. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Read the op
     
  6. Filmproducer

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    Right.... And again how does that apply to ALL liberals everywhere? Global warming is about as specific as the Iraq War. There doesn't seem to be much of a nationwide conservative stance on that does there? At least this supposed "fear" mongering does not involve the death of American soldiers, not to mention those Iraqui civilians who are considered "collateral damage", i.e., unintended consequences of war.
     
  7. Filmproducer

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    Oh, and could sombody please explain how global warming is a natural promoter of socialism? Something of substance, not the Al Gore supports it yada yada yada...
     
  8. 777

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    Fearmongering? On the part of man-made global warming advocates?

    NO WAY! Take the "moderate" Ted Turner, for example:

    It's the biggest danger ever ever ever, Ted's just pointing that out.

    Al Gore, the high priest of the movement:

    Want to give me an example of a conservative that agrees with either of those fearmongerers?
     
  9. Bro. Curtis

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    I see government take over of transportation, for one. And I believe if you think really hard, you'll be able to see it also.
     
  10. Filmproducer

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    That is not socialism...Neither is it "socialist" by default because conservatives do not support it. Talk about fear mongering and buying into the hype. Global warming in the political sense is an argument over whether climate changes, specifically a warming trend, are natural or man made; it has absolutely nothing in common with socialism. The political views of supporters cannot in and of itself make it socialist. It is just another hot button issue that can be used to sidetrack the masses. The conservatives/republicans pull out the old socialism/communist fear card, and the liberal/democrats use the end of the world argument. In reality there is evidence that human activity has caused the earth to warm, but to what extent? Certainly not enough to cause the imminent demise of the earth, then again more than enough to deny that human activity does in fact play a role.

     
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    Who said anything applied to ALL liberals everywhere?
     
  12. carpro

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    The OP said no such thing.
     
  13. Filmproducer

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    2 Tim in post #25, but I will conceed that maybe he did not mean ALL.
     
  14. Bro. Curtis

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    Govenrment control of transportation isn't socialism, or socialist ?
     
  15. carpro

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    But, like Daisy, you saw fit to add the word "all". You even capitalized it.

    Why?:confused:
     
  16. Filmproducer

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    Because the question was posed and it was not refuted. There was no other reason, and I have ceded that he may not have meant all.
     
  17. Filmproducer

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    What do you consider control of transportation? Forcing industries to conform to some uniform standard is not socialism. Is there some secret distribution of wealth occurring? Is there really some conspiracy attempt to nationalize the transportaion industry, or any other industry affected by environmental legislation? What exactly is your definition of socialism, for that matter? Even in capitalist societies industries are subject to some regulations. It is highly impractical to think any society could thrive and strive on pure capitalist ideology alone. About as impractical as a pure socialist society.
     
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  18. Bro. Curtis

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    Yeah, I'd say gov't control of people's movements is socialism. Or leading to it. I'm not going to debate that.
     
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