Some Abortion Foes Shifting Focus From Ban to Reduction

Seems to me what you're proposing, and what these people are doing, is a tactical shift, not an overall strategic one.

Seems to me that any good battle plan involves planning at the strategic, operational, and tactical levels.

Would you agree, CrabTown, that our overall (grand, if you will) strategy should be to eliminate abortions entirely?

I personally refuse to believe that it will never be accomplished. I'm realistic enough to know that people who are deadset on murdering unborn humans will find a way to do so; but I completely believe we can legislate that such actions are murder.

Remember, just because an unsaved person doesn't believe it isn't murder, doesn't mean it isn't.

 

Because the very nature of the article and your post above involves politics (as well as non-political alternatives). The article and your post talks about how the political movement towards making abortion illegal are stalling, so the focus should shift to other avenues. My inquiry was aimed at the thinking articulated in your post that nothing can be done policy-wise about abortion, so abortion shouldn't inform our voting habits. I am genuinely interested in your response to my post.

Nothing wrong with it. In fact, I fully support such efforts individually and through my church. Like others have said, it is not an either/or situation - both avenues should be aggressively explored.

 

If abortions are banned outright, I fear for those women in grave danger because of medical problems. I fear for those women needing a D&C because of medical necessity. I fear what will happen again in the back alley butcher shops.

Education is the key. Kids don't get pregnant for nothing. Most of them haven't a clue what a female period means, or the period of fertility.

I quite agree that it is out-of-hand, abortions at will, but another law is not the answer, any more than reading John 3:16 to everyone we meet, even though it is absolute truth.

Cheers,

Jim

 

I thought you held to the sovereignty of God

 

Thanks for posting this.
Just think if half the effort people take in complaining from their living rooms and voting for empty suits that make even emptier promises - if these people would take ACTION and go out and actually get their hands dirty in their community. How different would this whole issue look a year from now?
Also it would take churches actually coming together and working together despite doctrinal differences.

 

Alternatives have been offered. I think it's a moral issue. As long as women see abortion as okay - and the fact it's legal makes it okay for probably 80% of the women in this country, maybe more -- women will continue to choose abortion.

Having the baby and giving him/her up for adoption is much more of a commitment. Abortion for many women is the easy way out - so it seems to them.

Right now, 90% of unborn babies diagnosed with Down's Syndrome are aborted. That is a cold hard fact. I think it speaks volumes as to the devaluation of life in this country, and the moral devolution of our culture.

 

So, because some women will choose to go to back room abortionist we should legalize it so that this want happen. You are suggesting that two wrongs make a right. Plus, this is an old argument that many abortion supporters use to justify the legalized murder of the unborn.

Murder is illegal right now and it is generally done in back rooms, alleyways...behind closed doors. Such is the nature of darkness.

 

I am simply saying that be prepared for many women to be mained for life, or to loose their life if abortion is declared illegal.


And, they would continue by personal choice not with the sactioning of the government.

 

Well that explains alot.

 

Crabby is simply spouting the same tired old arguments that abortion supporters use to justify murder. They make it sound like the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is occurring on a mass scale. The horrors of the back alley abortion and the millions of women who die or are maimed in them. Man up Crabby and tell us where you really stand.

 

Yes, But in our emphasis...

Yes, there has always been "an emphasis" on alternatives.

However, the "screeching ones" were so loud nobody, especially a girl in trouble could hear them...

Lower the tone enough for the Liberal News Media to note our Moderation before all men... And, *then* we get heard...

Whether we like it our not... We *do* live in a secular pluralistic country.

Nothing this side of heaven is going to change that...

And, because this is so, an outright total ban on all abortions is not an obtainable goal. We should concentrate on being a preservation (salt) and winning battles we have the prayer and (therefore) a hope of winning.

Also, quite frankly, if we were a religious state, (Can't be a true theocracy until Jesus reigns) whose religious state would we be?

Assemblies of God, SBC, Primitive Baptist, KJVO?????

As corrupt as it is we've still got thebest thing going on Planet Earth

A friend sent me the following signature on an e-mail of his:

I guess the question is, is were we starting back-fires or forest fires?


Mike Sr.

 

Nonesense...........

 

You have little trust in the God of the Bible. How do you know they will never cease? I just got finished reading Esther...who would have ever thought God worked in that situation the way He did? "Oh ye of little faith" :tear:

 

I replied to your post...in this thread...stating you are a "realist" and abortions would never cease. I'm sure the jews said the same thing after Haman's plan to wipe out all jews which was sealed with the king's signet ring (meaning it would have to come about). Last I checked, my God is sovereign even over the SCOTUS, and their ruling wasnt' even sealed with a signet ring!
No kidding sin will not end...who said that? Your "realism" lacks the "lots of faith" you claim.

 

Her reply has to do with your statement that abortions won't become illegal in your lifetime.

The only way that statement of yours is true, is because you're going to die within the next 60 days. Or you're not willing to make the effort to try.

 

Or he wants to justify voting for an abortion supporter who does not want his girls to be "punished" with a baby or the mothers decision for abortion to be inhibited by a live birth so he is willing to let a live child suffer and die uncared for. You know social justice and all.