Some Fundamental Direction

I don't know what you consider fundamental. What do you believe?are you KJVO?

 

How about the standard of a pastor first in 2 Timothy 2:24-26. Do you actually expose all error and compromise in your own life? If you do not, then you are not exposing your own sin first. And you are wanting to expose the sins of others first? Remember you are the leader not the judge.

How about that same standard when you are not in the pulpit? You may have tried, but you will never even meet the standard you say you try to live by perfectly. The problem is that there is only one person who qualifies to meet that standard. His name is Jesus. But if you would like to see how far you get with it, you might go to a country where there is persecution.

Jesus never called us to be a militant fundamentalist. He called us to be a radical Christian. If you want to try your hand at that then go to a country where Christians are being persecuted.

Humility goes a long way. When you go to another country where the Christians are facing persecution then you might get a real dose of where you really are in your judgment of yourself first. From what I read you think quite highly of yourself.

1 Thess 5:14, "We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone."

2 Tim 2:24-26, "The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will."


Has your trouble been any worse then Moses? Any worse than Jesus? Any worse than Joseph in the OT?

 

I may have read you wrong. I am sorry if I did. Coming from my own experience I can remember myself a complainer until I realized that I was not even living up to the standard I was complaining about in others.

So often I have seen and heard preachers who think they are supposed to correct every person in sight instead of being patient with them and correcting them in wisdom.


I now see that pastors are to be with them, not just preach at them. I saw your posting as more of a complaint than anything else and setting yourself up as the standard and wondering why such poision was aimed at you by those you are trying to pastor.

 

On the surface that seems kinda dishonest. You don't just put the positive experiences on your resume do you? I would put it on and then explain with a cover letter of some type.

What was the extent of the patnership. If you were hungry would you care were the food came from? Roman Catholic PEOPLE aren't the "enemy", I reserve that role for Satan.

Defined how, women serving as pastor's and deacons or another level all together with the whole Sophia thing?

 

Dear BaptistXenos,
I awaited your answer because I did not want to help staff a church with a KJVO type as they tend to carry not only that baggage with them but other extra biblical ideas as well.
Now for the help.

go to :
www.churchlist.info
www.pastorstaff.com
Also SBCJobsearch (type that in your search window & you will find it)
Also Baptistlist Pastorless Churches, same way.

Good luck and God Bless.

 

BaptistXenos:

You can easily put that church on your resume. What you might state in a sentence or two following is not to name the bad exeriences but what you learned from that experience. Do the same thing with each place of employment and church. Virtually everyone has had a bad experience and sometimes several. The people who do nothing are always liked by those who want to chew the fat and do nothing.

I had a terible experience at a church. At times I thought I was going to fall apart. Eventually they asked me to leave. They were a church so full of poison and judgment. To add to that they were so full of heretical teaching and a poor example in the community. I had never seen such poor testimony among the leaders. Put it this way I had one deacon who had an altercation with a youth. That same deacon had thrown a car battery through the front window of the local auto parts place. A number of the deacons thought the local Mormon bishop was a believer and thought I should invite him to preach. However they did let him preach when at other times it was beyond my control. But when I left within a few days I had a call from a much larger and a very good church. Before I left the denomination aksed me if I would consider doing student work. Even some of the local pastors tried to help me. I was selected to give the sermon at the annual association meeting. Once I was the camp pastor at a youth conference. Getting fired or having a bad experience can be a good thing. If you list that church and they inquire about it and find out that it is indeed a poor church they will trust you. If you do not mention it and they find out, it looks like you are trying to hide something. Be truthful and upfront. If he next church cannot appreciate that then you shouldn't be there. Trsut God for where you might go.

Many years ago I was working in business and was terminated as a manager. I had built the branch to be the fastest growing branch in the company. But the company was bought out. It was a first time for me and I was very angry with the new company. When I went to interview for the next job they asked me about why I was terminated. Later I found out they knew about me and what happened within the company. I didn't know them but they knew some about me before I came. I think it was through customers. I was hired. They wanted to see if I would be honest with them.

Don't spend any time on the bad experiences but emphasize what you learned when they ask. I would not bring up the church unless they ask.

Since God is God, then let Him be God and watch Him work.

 

How about the standard of a pastor first in 2 Timothy 2:24-26. Do you actually expose all error and compromise in your own life? If you do not, then you are not exposing your own sin first. And you are wanting to expose the sins of others first? Remember you are the leader not the judge.

How about that same standard when you are not in the pulpit? You may have tried, but you will never even meet the standard you say you try to live by perfectly. The problem is that there is only one person who qualifies to meet that standard. His name is Jesus. But if you would like to see how far you get with it, you might go to a country where there is persecution.

Jesus never called us to be a militant fundamentalist. He called us to be a radical Christian. If you want to try your hand at that then go to a country where Christians are being persecuted.

Humility goes a long way. When you go to another country where the Christians are facing persecution then you might get a real dose of where you really are in your judgment of yourself first. From what I read you think quite highly of yourself.

1 Thess 5:14, "We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone."

2 Tim 2:24-26, "The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will."


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