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If "you" said it, no I would never think that because who are "you"? However, if God said it, then it is absolute because God never lies and would never says "NEVER" if it was anything but "NEVER."

Second, again you must jerk a word out of a Biblical context and place it in YOUR OWN TAYLOR MADE CONTEXT to escape God's chosen context which does not provide any escape and twisting of His words due to the context HE PLACED IT IN.

In the context he placed it in, there is no possible way it can be interpreted any other way but total depravity ["enmity with God and not subject to the law of God] coupled with total inability [neither indeed can be] rather than "under some conditions cannot be" (as you read and interpret it).

First, YOU are "supposing" against the absolute denial of God's word (Roman 8:7) and agains the very meaning of the term "ALWAYS" which you interpret only as "ALMOST always). If they "ALWAYS RESIST" then "ALWAYS" THERE IS NO REPENTNCE AND FAITH OR ELSE THEY DO NOT "ALWAYS RESIST." That is total inability and total depravity perfectly joined together and stated in two words.

This has been refuted so many times and yet NOT ONE TIME have you ever responded to the evidences that refute this use of this text this way by you! Not once!

1. These are regenerated people not unregenerated people

2. Jesus clearly said that the Holy Spirit was "with" them prior to Pentecost. "He that is WITH you, shall be in you"

3. The flesh is NEVER REGENERATED but only the "SPIRIT" and that is why the "spirit is willing" (Jn. 3:6). Paul said "with my flesh I serve sin" (Rom. 7:25) as "the flesh" NEVER serves God and NEVER will as "THERE IS NOTHING GOOD (that is in my flesh" (Rom. 7:18). What paul calls "the flesh" is totally depraved and totally without ability to please God (Rom. 8:8).

First, you cannot prove that he "ALWAYS" preached in the power of the Holy Spirit as he was just a man not a sinless man.

Second, the Holy Sprit in Paul does not mean the Holy Spirit is working in the audiance. Now Jesus ALWAYS preached in the power of the Spirit but He even admitted that the vast part of His audiance had no interest in him except for food (Jn. 6).

Third, the text says that Herod was addressing Paul not the Holy Spirit as trying to persuade him to be a Christian.

Ezek. 36:27 "cause you" and Philip. 2:13 "work in you both TO WILL and TO DO of His Good pleasure."

Please do not claim that Ezek. 36:26-27 refers only to the Jews as the same promise is found in Jeremiah 31:33-34 as the "new covenant" which the writer of Hebrews applies directly to us (Heb.8; 10) and so does Paul in 2 Cor. 3:3-6

 

That is not my claim or doctrine. The Holy Ghost is only irresistable when it comes to the chosen time for the elect to be saved. He is "ALWAYS" resisted outside those perimeters in regard to the presentation of the gospel.



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You were unable and continue to be unable to defend your position of Romans 8:7-8. The proof is there for all to read in our posts dealing with that text. If you like to challenge that, then I will be more than happy to present the same evidence you fled from.

False! The fact is, the lost man by his very nature is at a state of war with God - that is active resistance, and "is not subject to the law of God and NEITHER INDEED CAN BE" that is active resistance to the revealed will of God and that is the same thing as saying "ALWAYS RESISTS."

On the other hand, irresistable grace occurs only at the point in time God has chosen to save His elect, so at ALL OTHER TIMES that fallen nature is in active RESISTANCE and will ALWAYS be in active resistance at all other times.

Acts 7:51 is not found in a DOCTRINAL context but is the observation of Stephen to their resistance of the Word of God or the revealed will of God. On the other hand, Romans 8:7 is found in a DOCTRINAL context and does explicitly state that and applies it explicity to all who are "in the flesh" or the lost man (Rom. 8:8). That is irrrefutable if HONESTY with the text is the objective.

Second, resistance to God's word must have a cause and that cause is defined by the doctrinal passages of God's word (Rom. 8:7-8).

Third, Stephen's observation was based upon his DOCTRINAL understanding of human nature as he included not merely his immediate audiance but their whole previous progenity. This was an observation made of human nature that he could apply to his immediate audiance and all who lived before them as this is the nature of all fallen men.

FALSE! The mindset of the "carnal" nature or "the flesh" CAN NEVER BE CHANGED but is condemned to death "this body OF DEATH" (Rom. 7:25) because the flesh "serves the law of sin" and there is "NOTHING GOOD (that is in my flesh)" (Rom. 7:18) and so it must be "moritified" by the power of the Spirit (Rom. 8:13) in the regenerated man. However, even in the regenerated man there is NO SALVATION for "the law of sin" because it is "the law of sin" and it is "enmity with God" and because it "is not subject to the law of God" and because "NEITHER INDEED CAN BE."

It only contradicts YOUR FALSE INTERPRETATION of my view. Irresistable grace in regard to the gospel only occurs at the elected time when God saves His elect but at all other times the fallen human nature "ALWAYS RESISTS" the Holy Ghost.

 

Another aspect of the Biblical position that you do not understand is that God's absolute sovereignty does not contradict human responsibility as God has elected the means of salvation as much as He has chosen the persons and the time of salvation. "When it PLEASED GOD" we experienced our first human birth into this world and "WHEN it PLEASED GOD" we experienced our new birth (Gal. 1:15-16) but all though God's appointed means. Some sow, some plant but God gives the increase in his time and in His way.

We are to persuade men with all the persuasive power we have but still that is not sufficient to save anyone. It is the Holy Spirit IN ADDITION or IN SPITE OF us that must accompany the Gospel so that it does not come "in word only" but "in power and in the Holy Ghost and in much assurance" (1 Thes. 1:5).